New Elios Suits

[aydin]

Thanks for your detailed overview about your wetsuits Shane..Are they custom size or standart sized and how much euros did you pay for the suits,cargo,etc?? And I want an 3mm Benthos for summer,Which type of neopren and lining could you advice for me?? Thanks

[shaneshac]

Hey Aydyn, dependant on the materials selected a made to measure suit will cost you between 180 and 220 euros. My suit was made to measure and the measurements required can be easily downloaded from the Elios website. For final order I telephoned a guy called Stefano who was really helpful.

How cold/hot is your water in summer and how deep will you be diving?

Are you a careful person or not?

Shane

[Memo]

I'll order a summer suit too and I guess Aydin and I will use the suits more or less in the same waters.

Here is my personal choice:
-3mm heiwa lined outside / opencell inside
I dont want a delicate suit as I'm not the guy who is very sensitive, and I will lay on very sharp rocks at most of the time. I want opencell for the most comfy dive and I think at summers wet entry to the suit will never be the problem. I would send them a padding diagram aswell for the extra padding that I desire. And lastly I think I would go for a green camo lining.

[aydin]

Memo is right,I will be diving at sites a little bit colder than Memo,I can make aspettos at ~10-15 mt. and willing to dive alittle deeper to hunt dentex this summer.But nowadays the water is app. 11-13 Celcius.,and I can easily hunt only sea basses at1-4 mt. at north of Ýzmir.Two years ago I was hunting with just ambush tech. and under rocks.But then I have learned aspetto technique after that my diving tech. and behaviours under the sea have changed ,so I can say I am a careful diver .
Are you hunting sea bass (spigolo-levrek) at Gibraltar nowadays?

[Memo]

actually I love smoothskin camo but I'm afraid of being too fragile

[Memo]

I took this picture from Elios's photo gallery and the pattern is wicked IMO.

[feign]

Has anyone ordered an Elios suit with the new Black coated open cell. They told me in an email that it was as warm or more so that just open cell because it reflects heat. I don't know if this would actually be the case?

I was intent on ordering Heiwa w/ outside lined with superstretch nylon and open cell inside, but they told me that this is not available. To get superstretch nylon on the outside would need coated opencell eg. black. Has anyone else heard about this?
Thanks

[Memo]

feign check out this link I think they gave brief info about the types of neoprene in their hand..
http://www.eliossub.com/html/neoprene1.html

[shaneshac]

Hi Feign,

I have been sent a number of samples of the neoprene offered by ELios. As mentioned the Black coating is called Black Widow. It looks exactly like opencell but just does not stick to the skin if you run it over body.

If you have any knowledge of Physics (Memo will confirm ) the colour black will absorb heat and not reflect it. This is the reason black suits get screwed up in summer as they absorb all the UV light which breaks down the neoprene and the glue on seams. I would order the balck widow for ease of entry and not warmth. For heat reflection go for either the gold or copper lined which look real easy to put on and will reflect heat.

I went for opencell as it adheres a lot better to body and is also cheaper


PS the superstretch interior is also an option but you will loose a lot of skin adherance properties which is what makes suit warm. It will be moe resistant and easier to wear though.

[Memo]

Yes Shane is very explanatory about the lining types. I would always go for the open cell interior if I have enough water and soap. If you are choosing a summer suit, I think opencell int. is the best choice as you could soap the suit easily without getting cold.

So what about the anti-tear lining? If I choose it as outside lining will it eleminate the need for knee patches?

[shaneshac]

Memo, I have invited Stefano from Elios to come to the forum and hope he can help us/you.

They do not use elbow pads for better arm movement, but if you are anything like me I would suggest knee pads. That extra protection is reassuring. THe chest pad also comes with a couple of options i.e reinforced with nylon underlay or just stuck on like knee pads.

[Memo]

I would buy 3 suits, my summer suit, my brother's suit and a suit for my lady.
For my suit I am still undecided about smoothskin or lined but other than that it will be opencell inside and 3mm. I will order a double lined suit for my bro and gf but one will be camo and 3mm and one will be 5mm.

I'm looking forward Stefano as he could make some really valuable contributions.

[cece]

I'm in contact with Elios too.

I want to buy a camo suit but I'm waiting for the Sandwich type neoprene as I'm not at all sensitive and I love to do my aspettos on the rocks, well under rocks sometimes

Special offers for all Deeper blue members, sounds good...

Yes, this is my last spearfishing party with 2 friends of mine (i'm on the left by the way ), I caught the biggest sea bass (4.6kg) and the small sargos. The overall weight is 11 Kgs.

[Jon]

I finally got my order finalized today!

Had to re-do the measurements to make sure they were right. I have never owned a truly customized suit before and am really interested in how much of a difference it makes.

I ended up ordering two suits, one for summer and one for winter. I knew I was going to order two eventually, so I decided that I might save on shipping costs this way- which aren't cheap!

I ordered a 3mm and a 6mm opencell inside with a smoothskin outer, low density Hewia suits- per Eric's suggestions. I am going to hang onto my other suits for a while in case I think I might be beating them up too much. Fred tells me his smooth skin suits have held up just fine and I am going on his experience as well.

I also ordered a 2mm vest. I went with opencell on the inside and super-elastic on the outside- per Elios's suggestion. I guess this will make it a little easier to put on under a 6mm suit.

I decided upon the opencell as I have had both coated and opencell suits in the past and they all need to be lubed to slip them on. Since I am going to be lubing anyhow, I thought I should be as warm as possible.

A smooth skin outter will be a first and am anxious to see if it really is as fast as Tyler told me it was.

Jon

[pat fish]

i received a highperformance suit from elios 2 weeks ago:
6mm nuovo Liscio SuperSlide esterno /Spaccato slide interno
new neoprene type Black Shadow [... è molto più lucido e scivoloso in acqua (migliora le performances)] for constant weight training in lake conditions here in Switzerland (water temp must be at around 6°C now and we just decided not to go diving tomorrow because of the snowy conditions... you know that: the changing of clothes is the hardest part)
i am very satisfied with the quality... but this type of neoprene appears to be VERY fragile!