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#31
March 23rd, 2004
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The mailman just dropped off my suits!
 The 6mm smooth skin/opencell looks pretty sweet, but I am a little worried abotu the 3mm. We'll just have to see how it holds up. Since I have 3 nylon outer suits already, though not all of them fit anymore, I decided to try the opencell/smoothskin approach after reading many of the comments on here. We'll see how it does if I can get out this weekend.  Jon
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#32
March 23rd, 2004
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Jon,
I have an Elios 3 mm jacket in open cell/smoothskin low density Hewia and I like it a lot. It's holding up pretty well. I spearfish in it almost every weekend. I'm strictly a bottom crawler and so far so good. I don't have the pants to go with it though but if I did, I'd definitely want knee pads on them (at the very least) if not a full nylon exterior. Please let us know how it works out for you. Scott
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March 23rd, 2004
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That's good to know Scott.
If I trash the pants out I still have a Picasso 3mm famerjohn that I could layer underneath it- although they are a little large right now. What kind of pants are you wearing for your bottom crawling expedititions?  Jon
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March 23rd, 2004
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Jon,
Right now my favorite ones are an old pair of OMER Professional high waist pants. These are rubber out, nylon in and since the water never really got cold down here this year (if you can call <73 degrees cold), it's nice to not have to get wet to put my pants on. The outer rubber on the Professional is pretty sturdy and so is holding up pretty well although, the knees are taking quite a beating. That's why if I ever get Elios pants I'd definitely opt for at least knee pads. Scott
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March 24th, 2004
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Jon- save yourself a buncho grief and glue and do what we true bottom crawlers, (note that I said bottom crawlers, NOT bottem feeders
 ) do and slip into an old pair of Levi's once you're all in your suit. Having gone the smooth/smooth/smooth  bit before, I went with having the guys add pads and all, but was still getting dings and nicks everywhere butt the knees... And yeah, you purists, (and note I said purists, NOTpussies), are going to be all miffed about the total lack of hydrodynamics and the weight of the sodden cotton, but hey, the suit lasted a load of dives.  Let the poseurs laugh until you slide the bugs into the cooler.
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March 24th, 2004
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I still have my nylon covered suits for bottom grubbing, but I really wanted to try a smoothskin to see if it was as 'smooth' as everyone raves they are.
It certainly fits better than any other suit I have owned before, plus it's got a lot more flex in the chest area to make breathing much more relaxed. Here's a shot of the 6mm suit. Jon
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March 27th, 2004
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Tried out the 6mm today (40 degree water for 2+ hours) and it worked great!
I couldn't believe how warm I was the entire time. The only thing that started to chill on me were my feet, which were covered with 5mm OMER socks. Maybe I should have had ELIOS make me a pair of them as well. I never even put on the vest, and was still plenty warm, plus the hood fit so well I may no longer need my ice cap. The suit also allowed me to take deeper breaths, than my nylon outer stock wetsuits, and move swifter though the water. All-in-all, a wonderful suit that you can't go worng with. I wish i would have bought one sooner. jon
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#39
March 28th, 2004
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for all of you that have elios suits. have any of you experienced heavy wear at the crotch i have a hole made by friction on my suit. this happened after only three times i have used my suit. what a pitty i realy like elios suits but what happened has really put me off from ever geting another alios suit. a hole from friction after only three times of use is really rediculous. does any one have any remedies to stop this happening.
regards john
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March 28th, 2004
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I never heard of that happening before with an Elios.
My advise is first to talk with the Elios guys, they should know best. I'm waiting for my suit to arrive sometime in April by the way. 
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April 6th, 2004
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Quote:
I have been using my Heiwa 5mm open-cell, smoothskin since the end of September or so, diving 2-3 times a week usually. Doing lots of life searching at the bottom, along walls, etc... I have gone for swims of a couple kilometers a couple times, and I do not see any wear on my suit yet. I have scraped on barnacles, metal wiring, rocks, etc... and nothing shows yet. Maybe a small abrasion at one location. So it sounds like there was a defect in your material or maybe you did not have the same materials? But your circumstance sounds very isolated. I would not end your experiences with Elios over that. My opinion.
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#42
April 7th, 2004
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they where 6 mm pants but not heiwa.they are smooth skin and low density neoprene but i dont think they are heiiwa. it seems that the crotch strap rubbing against the pants is what caused the damage to the pants. anyway i patched it up with akind of neoprene glue called black witch and it seems to be holding up good.but after what happened i am not fastenning my crotch strap anymore i just let it dangle behind my back.i am actually thinking of cutting it off entirely.i did thios last timwe i dived oand not even a drop of water got in under my suit.so this sould be ok.
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