Elios 3mm SmoothSkin/openCell Heiwa suit

[DJones]

Marwan Re: Elios 3mm SmoothSkin/openCell Heiwa suit

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good man, i dont think you will notice a lot of difference between the lined and the smoothskin on your decent..when you say deep aspettos, how deep are you talking?
ive been to tunisia several times, cool places never tried spearfishing there though, maybe on my next visit...

With training 30m, and hoping to go deeper (Dentex, Seriola ).
Without training, well, 20-25 is deep enough (a bit less dentex, less good sized groupers)...

[fjohnson]

Originally Posted by sanso

Yep, it's the kanoko. Zebrafishle has that on top of 7mm Yamamoto soooper soft - the suit is squishy as a jellyfish.

NO.. superstretch lining is not the same as Kanako lining. The kanako is closer to the regular nylon lining than the superstretch.

[fjohnson]

Originally Posted by island_sands

is that the Kinoko (sp?) - i am looking at all the materials available and cant decide which one to get.

NO.. the superstretch is completely different than the kanako.. kanako is closer to the nylon

[Fondueset]

Right - Kanoko is supposed to be the most resistant - but superstretch is a very stretchy nylon that works great.

[sanso]

Oh? The elios people used the term "Kanoko superstretch" in one of their offers to me.

[Fondueset]

Have to ask them! When I bought my suit they were different things - but they may have a new product now.

[fjohnson]

I have too many elios suits... one is nylon inside.. one is kanako inside/out.. two are superstretch inside.. one is open cell in/closed out..
the superstretch are definitely the best in my book.. sure, the open cell is warmest but it is not fun to lube up when it is freezing or worse outside.

[island_sands]

Originally Posted by sanso

Oh? The elios people used the term "Kanoko superstretch" in one of their offers to me.

Correct.

- Double lined (antitear elastic Kanoko/superstretch nylon)
Free diving - Apnea

[fjohnson]

Originally Posted by island_sands

Correct.

- Double lined (antitear elastic Kanoko/superstretch nylon)
Free diving - Apnea

that is referring to a "double" lined suit... kanoko on one side and superstretch on the other.. two different materials

[sanso]

3) Suit complete of Jacket 7mm / High waist pants in 5mm, Neoprene
Heiwa, Open cell inside / Kanoko Superstretch antitears Black outside

And this refers to a single lined suit.

[fjohnson]

Quote:
3) Suit complete of Jacket 7mm / High waist pants in 5mm, Neoprene
Heiwa, Open cell inside / Kanoko Superstretch antitears Black outside

Originally Posted by sanso

And this refers to a single lined suit.

kinda confusing but appears to refer to 3 options for the outside:kanoko, superstretch, or antitear black...

very, very confusing

[DJones]

I'm finally ordering the smoothskin open cell suit.
I'll write something when I receive it, in a month...

[salibandy]

Good for you mate. I order a suit exactly like yours, and today I was informed that I would recieve it with a few days. However I cannot track my shipment with the number Elios provided, so I have to wait patiently, something I'm not good at.

[sanso]

Originally Posted by salibandy

... have to wait patiently, something I'm not good at.

Aaah, I'm in exactly the same situation right now. I could track the shipment from elios, but for a complicated set of reasons the suit was shipped to my sister's and is now on its way here...

[salibandy]

Haha. What makes it worse for me is that I have 2 Paradisias that are supposed to be on the way but the dive shop has had trouble with the postage company, so argh! When is my stuff all going to come.

Elios might have mixed up my shipment though, but there is no one on this island who freedives (number of freedivers can be counted with hands and toes, numbers of serious freedivers can be counted with one hand) and is ordering a suit. In that email they asked me for payment for shorts and vest, which I never ordered. Hmmm.