closed cell, worth it?

[Fondueset]

What I've heard is that yamamoto is very elastic, very comfortable, but gets stretched out quickly and wears out quickly. I have two smoothskin suits with camo - well, actually three if you count just a top. One is 5 mil - total suit - elios blue pelagos camo, one is 3 mil - same but sent by mistake when I ordered five and elios said keep it. Then I have a 6 mil top which is green pelagos camo - which is very effective i these waters. The 6 mil has been quite durable - the 5 mil also seems quite durable. The 3 mil is very stretchy and easy to put on - but I am extra careful with lube. The suits are much warmer in air than nylon out - but unless you are using them in competition, or diving in cold, or just dig the ultra-groovy elios camo, nylon out is a better investment.

Here I am in my glorious blue pelagos smooth out/open in 5 mil suit diving in 38F water in very early spring. (my monofin technique has improved since then )

YouTube - May in West Grand Traverse Bay

[settingsteel]

thx for clarifying!

[jtkwest]

ok , question: when you say open cell inside, with nylon on outside, how do i know what the composition of the outside of the suit is? the dive shops here do not have ANY high performance or camo suits here and mostly the employees dont know much about their stuff, is that just "standard issue? or do i have to look for something specific? my oneal 3/2/1 seems to be just neoprene, inside and out, with elbow and knee patches out of thin rubber. on the "blue water hunters" website, they have a bunch of cool suits. with yamamoto rubber. one in particular is 2mm reversible, with blue camo 1 side and green camo other side" perfect for key west, pretty much, they are all around 350$, so i wanna make sure i get a nice one

[EEZerik]

I've had Heiwa but it wasn't as pliable or stretchy as yamamoto 38 even, let alone Yamamoto 45. Do you know what grade of Heiwa you were using?

Cheers,

Erik

[Bill]

'..Heiwa but it wasn't as pliable or stretchy as..'
Me too but Heiwa medium density, even in 3mm, is just about bullet proof and after 200 dive days it still has almost the same buoyancy as new.

[salibandy]

Originally Posted by Bill

'..Heiwa but it wasn't as pliable or stretchy as..'
Me too but Heiwa medium density, even in 3mm, is just about bullet proof and after 200 dive days it still has almost the same buoyancy as new.

Yeah, my suit has been with me a while, and it's still like new! Damn. I was hoping the hood would stretch out just a teeny weeny bit, it feels too small for my head!

[tuffstuff]

Hey Jt theres a guy that sells a couple freedive wetsuits in his shop in marathon.I think he had "Real Sea" and "Yazbeck" wetsuits.Name of the shop is "Above and Below".

[jtkwest]

Originally Posted by tuffstuff

Hey Jt theres a guy that sells a couple freedive wetsuits in his shop in marathon.I think he had "Real Sea" and "Yazbeck" wetsuits.Name of the shop is "Above and Below".

thanks for info. my boat is on ramrod. we should kill something sometime. you got a boat? i got a 17ft mako, its nice , but its kinda small.you live in the keys for a while? got any good gps#s for middle keys? i got alot of good stuff for lowerkeys, but its fished out, unless you go west of marquesas. where is that store? god i hate marathon.(no offense)

[tuffstuff]

Originally Posted by jtkwest

thanks for info. my boat is on ramrod. we should kill something sometime. you got a boat? i got a 17ft mako, its nice , but its kinda small.you live in the keys for a while? got any good gps#s for middle keys? i got alot of good stuff for lowerkeys, but its fished out, unless you go west of marquesas. where is that store? god i hate marathon.(no offense)

we went out today toward bahia honda and I found only bullsharks but my friend managed 2 grouper and a mongrove/hog. I have a 23ft ranger bayboat that is pretty badass but we usually just go to the lighthouse infront of cudjoe( american shoal) since i fished out my other spots..lol.
My number is 305-747-0941..gimme a call if you need to borrow that gun or have any questions...

[jimy286]

Yazbek suits are amazing....such alot of thought into them...you Can get them on freediving and spearfishing equipment, FreeDiveShop They are made from Lycra Camo ThermoFlex have a look.