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5mm wetsuit
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My suggestion: Order a bespoke ecoline spearo wetsuit from www.EliosSub.com in Italy with highwaist spearo pants & a loading pad (no other extras). It should just about be in budget - if not, the extra amount will be well worthwhile for a perfect fit. It will be both warm and hardwearing.
To get a perfect fit, follow the videos carefully to measure up. Take each measurement several times (left & right side of the body, morning/evening, hot/cold), discard any off-measurements & average the others. Note, the difference between left & right-side of the body can be an inch or more. The difference between hot & cold, evening/night can be significant too.
Allow time for the order - it's a handmade product and they get busy sometimes. Being in the USA, make sure you don't pay VAT (22% in Italy?). You might need to pay some US import duty upon receipt (probably less than the Italian VAT).
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thanks for the infor Mr. X (you didnt happen to get that name from the nanny diaries did you 
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ive looked around that site and will contact elios soon to check on prices. before i do though, may i ask why bespoke ecoline? i found some info on the elios site about ecoline but nothing mentiong bespoke... im sure its probably some really simple term and im just ignorant... but is bespoke ecoline inexpensive neoprene?
and is a "patch for arbalete" the same as a loading pad?
i have sent a PM to jimdoe and he gave me his views and some prices on some wetsuits, so if the elios prove too expensive then ill most likely go through him. a taylored wetsuit sure does sound nice though...
annnnd one last question, what is VAT? is it some sort of sales tax in italy?
). ive looked around that site and will contact elios soon to check on prices. before i do though, may i ask why bespoke ecoline? i found some info on the elios site about ecoline but nothing mentiong bespoke... im sure its probably some really simple term and im just ignorant... but is bespoke ecoline inexpensive neoprene?
and is a "patch for arbalete" the same as a loading pad?
i have sent a PM to jimdoe and he gave me his views and some prices on some wetsuits, so if the elios prove too expensive then ill most likely go through him. a taylored wetsuit sure does sound nice though...
annnnd one last question, what is VAT? is it some sort of sales tax in italy?
bespoke - Definitions from Dictionary.com - custom-made for you.
Ecoline because it's their cheapest option (so most likely to be in your $200 budget - mine was but that was a couple of years ago) and it is good for spearing. Some of the fancier neoprenes offer advantages but mainly for people going deep for extended periods (SCUBA). Smooth skin looks good & dries quickly if you are getting onto a boat regularly -- but if you are fishing from shore around rocks, it gets damaged too easily [see SpearoMatts recent reports for confirmation of this]. Ecoline is nylon covered, so quite tough -- no need for extra knee & elbow pads. It is open-cell inside, so cheap, sticky & warm. You'll need lube (e.g. dilute hair conditioner or shampoo) to get it on but that's part of the experience & it sounds like most of the fancy linings still need/benefit from lube, no matter what the claims say. These are just personal thoughts & opinions, others will no doubt disagree on some points.
Ecoline because it's their cheapest option (so most likely to be in your $200 budget - mine was but that was a couple of years ago) and it is good for spearing. Some of the fancier neoprenes offer advantages but mainly for people going deep for extended periods (SCUBA). Smooth skin looks good & dries quickly if you are getting onto a boat regularly -- but if you are fishing from shore around rocks, it gets damaged too easily [see SpearoMatts recent reports for confirmation of this]. Ecoline is nylon covered, so quite tough -- no need for extra knee & elbow pads. It is open-cell inside, so cheap, sticky & warm. You'll need lube (e.g. dilute hair conditioner or shampoo) to get it on but that's part of the experience & it sounds like most of the fancy linings still need/benefit from lube, no matter what the claims say. These are just personal thoughts & opinions, others will no doubt disagree on some points.
Absolutely no doubt Elios are good suits but you wont hear anything bad about these either & at 1/2 the price!
Green Abstract Camo - DiveSkin - Quality Neoprene Products
Green Abstract Camo - DiveSkin - Quality Neoprene Products
does anyone know how marea's suits compare to all the other custome made suits. in price and quality. i have looked into the dive skin website and like the suits alot but i want an extreamly good quality suit along the lines of beachat but i need it custome made due to my height and weight (6'5" and 180lbs) any info would be appreciated
"bespoke - Definitions from Dictionary.com - custom-made for you."
haha wow... i was actually on dictionary.com looking up other words i did not know from elios and didnt think to look for bespoke... i feel SO smart right now. thanks for clarifying some stuff Mr.X
amd if elios are too expensive those DiveSkins look perfect, thanks for the info foxfish
haha wow... i was actually on dictionary.com looking up other words i did not know from elios and didnt think to look for bespoke... i feel SO smart right now
. thanks for clarifying some stuff Mr.Xamd if elios are too expensive those DiveSkins look perfect, thanks for the info foxfish
You mention JimDoe, he is a top notch guy. He makes me laugh so hard sometimes. He did a post comparing a couple of similar blue camo wetsuits that he bought from 2 different companies, one of which was Elios. You might want to have a search for his posts.
Foxfish's link appears to be US based, well within budget, custom made and camo. What more could you ask for!
Foxfish's link appears to be US based, well within budget, custom made and camo. What more could you ask for!
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my thoughts exactly! w/ shipping it will cost around $230... which i am fine w/ as it will be custom. i should be ordering one this weekend
True except that Diveskin is not US based.
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now how about quality? has anyone ordered a diveskin suit or has anyone worn a marea's suit preferably the sharkskin one. wanted to know how they felt and the price they payed.
thanks in advance
thanks in advance
ive read reviews on diveskin and MOST of them seem to hold them in high regard. im very price oriented at the moment so a custom made suit for 190 USD was perfect. Im just a little nervous about my measurments... he is in greece so i need to make to get them right.
do a search under freediving equipment wetsuits; they helped me out a bunch in making a decision.
do a search under freediving equipment wetsuits; they helped me out a bunch in making a decision.
Here is a little more reading on those:
http://forums.deeperblue.net/wetsuits/65345-more-elios-questions-3.html#post596878
http://forums.deeperblue.net/wetsuits/65345-more-elios-questions-3.html#post596878
okay this is the third time ive written this because my internet hates me:head...
DiveSkin does have open cell material but they call it slickskin.
A custom made suit costs the same as one of the regular sizes from DiveSkin. Green Camo Abstract.; I'm getting this suit as 5mm, high waist, nylon exterior, open cell/slickskin interior, and it will be custom made. Costs me $189 US plus $38 for International Shipping. So a 5mm custom made suit comes out to be $227, which is just great by me!
You can also contact Spiros via email through the DiveSkin site. He usually answers within the day, if not 5 minutes
Hope this helps,
Thomas
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Thomas,
Open cell is different than smoothskin (also known as slickskin). The new Cressi Tecnica wetsuits are made with slickskin interior, and I was going to carry them but I wasn't digging the exterior finish on them. I have also seen them on sale for as little as $200.
Open cell is different than smoothskin (also known as slickskin). The new Cressi Tecnica wetsuits are made with slickskin interior, and I was going to carry them but I wasn't digging the exterior finish on them. I have also seen them on sale for as little as $200.
oh... on DiveSkin it claims that slickskin is open cell...
"Available in 3 or 5mm with slickskin (open cell) interior and in 3 or 5mm with Nylon interior"
thats taken from the website, i also emailed Spiros about a week ago asking if 5mm was available in open cell and he said yes... i guess i just assumed slickskin was his name for it? now im really confused... my bad...
"Available in 3 or 5mm with slickskin (open cell) interior and in 3 or 5mm with Nylon interior"
thats taken from the website, i also emailed Spiros about a week ago asking if 5mm was available in open cell and he said yes... i guess i just assumed slickskin was his name for it? now im really confused... my bad...
Hmmm, .....that is odd. It is probably a slight grammatical or contexual error based on the langauge gap.
Open cell is split neoprene and has the look and feel of a smooth sponge with micro pores. Slickskin is closed cell neoprene and has a shiny smooth finish. Many pure freediving suits are open cell inside with a slickskin exterior. A suit with slickskin interior will keep you warmer than a suit with a nylon interior, but not as warm as a suit with the open cell interior.
Here is a pick of a Yamamoto 45 freediving suit with the slickskin exterior.
Open cell is split neoprene and has the look and feel of a smooth sponge with micro pores. Slickskin is closed cell neoprene and has a shiny smooth finish. Many pure freediving suits are open cell inside with a slickskin exterior. A suit with slickskin interior will keep you warmer than a suit with a nylon interior, but not as warm as a suit with the open cell interior.
Here is a pick of a Yamamoto 45 freediving suit with the slickskin exterior.
