AIDA Ranking Graphs

[TimoP]

I made some graphs from AIDA Result Register from years 1996-2008, just for testing. Check these attached files below.
Link to the AIDA register made by Jome: AIDA Freediving Results Register

Because the curves seemed like exponential in the start and in the end, I made logatimic scaling graphs, too.

These are not quite exact, some comments:
- in the register there are only AIDA Competition Results, not AIDA Official Record Attemp Results, e.g. some WRs in depth disciplines are not in this register
-graphs are made direct by RP, not by points (there are some reasons for this, and these are not official graphs anyway, just some testing)
- ranking numbers are not right, numbers are more like running numbers of the result, because many freedivers have several results in register, etc...and BTW its backwards...so really not correct ranking numbering...its the number of result beginning from the smallest result in the list....yeah this is only testing, just look at the big picture, i think you find it interesting
- because these are only examples, there is only DYN men and CWT men.

Find yourself if you have been in a AIDA mens DYN or CWT competition!
In DYN results you can easily see, where the pool edge is
The top freedivers have really good results, if you compare them to hundreds of other competition results in the line!

If you are doing a new AIDA Ranking Register, as trux have suggested, some graphs would be interesting to get from the register menu! But not essential in the first new version, I known it's hard enough to do the core of the new system first.... just look at my messing about with that ranking numbering in the graphs ...

EDIT: these links below include 2008 results only (some hundred results), not all the years 1996-2008.
Links for 1996-2008 thousands of results you can find from my later post:
http://forums.deeperblue.com/freediving-competitions/82487-aida-ranking-graphs.html#post761959

 

[TimoP]

Here are some Finnish national PB ranking graphs, also including training PBs.

Because these are Personal Best (PB) results, one freediver have only one result in one graph. From max horizontal x-number you see how many freedivers there are in that ranking list. A few top freedivers go "over" the basic line, like in an exponential curve. Somehow like in AIDA graphs.

 

[trux]

Interesting, Timo! Yes, if we managage to get turn the registry into an open project, I am sure there would be plenty of room for people like you with such ideas. If it were an Open Source project, a module with graphic output, and diverse statistics could be easily added.

 

[Mullins]

It looks like the top two men's CWT results are missing from the graph? Interesting though, thanks Timmo.

 

[TimoP]

You're right Mullins, i did testgraphs quite quicly last midnight, so there is something to fix. My original graphs are in an other computer, not now available, so I'll check and fix them next week.
There in the AIDA Competions register top results in CWT 1996-2008 are:

Rank_Top___Name________ AP_RP_Pen_Pts___Date____ Place
1___ 1____ NITSCH Herbert 112 112 0 112 2007-10-23 Sharm el Sheikh
2___ -____ NITSCH Herbert 111 111 0 111 2006-12-01 Hurghada
3___ 2____ MULLINS David 108 108 0 108 2008-04-01 Dean's Blue Hole
4___ -____ MULLINS David 114 110 5 105 2007-10-23 Sharm el Sheikh

Jome, these freediver links with blue fonts are active even here, though is just copied a part of register ranking results listing here!

And everybody, click name of Herbert or Dave above, then click some competition in their profile, and you get the whole interactive result table from this competition. You can change the listing by clicking word RP, Points or something else.You can click somebody's name, and you get his or her profile, and in what AIDA competitions he or she has been etc. etc. This is very interactive register! I hope the new one would be it, too.

Disclaimer: The Register is in a little server in a corner of Jome's livingroom, so it can be overloaded and slow down or something else. His twins are so little babys that they can't get cabels off yet, but that day will come soon
So try it on some other time if there are some problems.

 

[TimoP]

Interesting though, thanks Timmo.

When talking about Finnish freedivers, you must be careful with letters
So we know if your mean Kimmo, Mikko, Simo, Timo(P), Timo(K) or Topi ...
Of course everybodys' last name ends to -nen,.. hmmm I wonder why Simo is not Kurranen :ycard

 

[Mullins]

Sorry Timo. It's a bit confusing, can we start allocating you numbers instead? FinnM1, FinnF2 etc...

 

[jome]

Since our beloved social democratic nation is hell bent on "everybody is equal - or else!", why differentiate?

Just say "the finnish guy" or considering to genders "the finn". If you want to pay us a compliment, use the "the drunken finn". It's simple, really...

 

[trux]

If you want to pay us a compliment, use the "the drunken finn".

Isn't there too much redundancy in that expression?

 

[TimoP]

Finnish freedivers drink almost only bottle water, and have no much interest to other liquids than water, I've noticed. If somebody in a freediving course have a bottle of beer in his or even her hand after a hard training day and hot sauna, Jome and Kimmo try to take it away, because they say this is sport, and beer is not a right recovery drink with too low protein content and non-optimal mix of electrolytes, why to ruin your freediving career!

BTWay a special attention to this:
Jone is a different Finnish freediver than Jome (=Simo)! They both are tall, but Jone is a little slimmer, though I haven't seen Jome's side profile lately...

There is a good chance, that Jone (=Jonerik) will be seen in the AIDA Pool WC 2009 in Denmark. It would be his first big international competition. Jone is the guy with Mikko in this TV-show:

In a way he did first a new Finnish NR (140 m) in DNF, cause Mikko was still underwater when Jone did his SP.

 

[jome]

Isn't there too much redundancy in that expression?

hence the compliment

You know, like "your divine excellency"

 

[TimoP]

Since our beloved social democratic nation is hell bent on "everybody is equal - or else!", why differentiate?

A month ago we got a new law: a barber or a hairdresser can get a 3.000 € penalty, if there in a price list is mentioned prices for mens' hair cut and womens' hair cut (this is NOT a April joke). There must be written like a price for short hair, long hair etc.. . In Northern countries there are no women and men, only persons. First they innovate this kind of things in Sweden, and then politicians think here: "We must have it too, because it is so in the other countries", though no other country in the world than Sweden would have it. Maybe they haven't this barber pricing issue even in Sweden...yet, of course they will have it soon, once it has innovated.

Maybe one day we'll be in jail, because we have separate freediving results lists for men and women. We have good prisons in Northern Countries, because we are all equal and you shouldn't distress anybody (e.g. criminals). Maybe we could finally get enough pool time for freediving - in prison .
Of course we would have a holiday from prison if we need to go a freediving competition. But we should sign a paper where we promise to come back after a week or two. If we don't "remember" to come back, we will be Prisoners, absent, haven't come back from holiday (this is NOT a April joke, either).

 

[TimoP]

Some strange things have happened... Finnish freedivers used to be so healthy and well shaped. Just look at this young guy taking some fresh air in pure nature with his wonderful, almost incredible strong diaphragm, isn't he like one of those Michelangelo's divine statues:

Then Kimmo started to talk: "Eating is so overrated in the western culture" and "IF, I mean IF, I eat, I eat only little and rarely" etc. It have effected in some subconscious way to me also, although I've tried not to be involved yoga meditations. etc. I'm not in the picture above, but I used to look out almost as healthy and nice shaped as he did. But now I have lost 8 kg in 2 months.

I'm really afraid of that I'll soon look like this poor man:

Wait a minute...he looks somehow familiar...oops, isn't he a Kiwi freediver...and the photo is taken by...Kimmo! Help me!

 

[TimoP]

Finally back to the point:
Below are my new graph test versions of AIDA Competition results 1996-2008, Men DYN and CWT. For testing I also did a vers , where is the TOP1 in the left side, but it doesn't look so logical to me.

Number of results are really big, in Mens' DYN over 3200 results and in Mens' CWT 1660 results! There are many results from same freedivers, but there is over a thousand individual freedivers in the lists anyway
With this program Ive not been succesful so far to do right Ranking or Top numbering in the X-axis, maybe I must leave it to that new AIDA result machine -project for experts

In Mens' DYN the curve goes rapidly up like exponential after 140 m, and in CWT exponentially down after 60 m. So if your have done better than these results in a competition, you are some kind of top freediver, statistically it seems to be so.

95% of results are under 165 m in Mens' DYN, and 95% are under 78 m in mens' CWT. So they who have done over 165 m in DYN or deeper than 78 m in CWT are surely the Top Guys in freediving. I mean statistically

 

[Jorg]

For a change I also did some freediving number crunching work. First results you can find on my website or a bigger version here. Each week I will publish a new discipline.