Anglesey lobster

[conn4000]

hello all
I had been out on the island this weekend gone and had found a broken up lobster pot on the rocks in a quiet bay way up from the high tide mark which I had taken home and have now repaired with assorted zip ties and new wood for the framework which I have to say looks up to the job again though a little unprofessional looking.
Looking at sinking it somewhere and weighing it down with some rocks.
can anyone advise as to the best baits for lobster and approx what depths it should be located in.
will the bait need to be tied in etc.
I have also found a hole where a lobster is residing but could not get the bleeder out as he kept backing in so he's on my menu for next week if its still about if I can find my crab hook etc to maybe coax him out
ps
hope I have not done anything wrong in taking the pot as it was wrecked on the beach and not taken from a local fisherman, considered it knackered and salvage as it had no bouy attached either

 

[dario_deli]

I've seen sometimes lobster pots lost in the sea, I think sometimes they loose them during bad bad weather.
Sorry mate but I've no idea which bait you need but about the one in the hole if you can't reach it by hands just shoot it loading your bands on the first notch. No need power as you can either bend or get your spear stuck in the hole. Another way is to use the handle or the spear of your gun to pull it out from the hole but I usually prefer the shot...easy and quick. They die quickly anyway out the water!

 

[jimy286]

If you use the handle make sure you unload your gun as i can see that one going bad.
For bait anything stinky....Fish or meat just Fn STINKY.

If possible dont use a marker or a small one so the commercials dont mess it up!!

 

[Lazuli]

about the one in the hole if you can't reach it by hands just shoot it loading your bands on the first notch. No need power as you can either bend or get your spear stuck in the hole. Another way is to use the handle or the spear of your gun to pull it out from the hole but I usually prefer the shot...easy and quick. They die quickly anyway out the water!

Is'nt that illegal?? I'm sure I read legislation somewhere prohibiting the shooting of crustaceans.

 

[conn4000]

cheers for the reply boys, I think ill run with the handle next time or get a crab hook or better still make something as currently im getting used to the differance in refraction of the water through my mask with minimum legal sizes etc.
do lobster stay in holes or migrate from one to another as if they stay in a preferred hole he or she will be waiting for me this weekend.
I have access to salmon heads from a local fishmonger but had read ages ago somewhere that this may be an issue due to virus's in farmed fish, any truth in this??
its terrible this spearfishing lark as i cannot stop now......

 

[dario_deli]

MMMM...ops...I don't really know...:head

 

[Lazuli]

I'm 99.999% sure it is illegal to shoot crustaceans and shellfish. If you do, dont let the fisheries man catch you as there could be a hefty penalty. Watch out for "notched" lobsters as well. Down here in Cornwall and elsewhere in the UK you'll get into trouble caught with one. Im also pretty sure the measurement is to do with the carapace length and does not include claws outstretched. Someone chime in here if I'm wrong.

The pic below is taken from Cornwall Sea Fisheries Committee's website page "how to measure a marine organism".

 

[brando]

It is 100% illegal to shoot a lobster or any shellfish. It is also illegal to take a female lobster in berry and there is a minimum size which you need to know how to measure properly. Bait the pot with an old fish carcass white fish is best smelly is good. The pot does not have to be deep but below low water mark is best. Grabbing lobsters with your hands is much more fun though.

 

[Spaniard]

Not only illegal but 'shooting' them makes them spoil very quickly, so unless you are going to eat them immediately you have wasted your catch. Ideally all 'crustaceans' should be cooked with carapace intact!

 

[paddyc23]

sardines, makeral, herring, is gd baits, split em in middle like you wood do for conger fishing, let them juices flow, hermit crabs is gd bait too, if u can find any,

 

[foxfish]

It is not illegal to shoot crustaceans where I live & some guys do!

Interesting fact that you can indeed use mackerel for pot bait - something that only a few years ago would of only caught you congers!
Not many congers left now & not so easy to catch other bait like Pollock or wrasse so potters are using mackerel to bait their pots - just another sad sign of the times!
Personally I would use a fresh as possible bait, the frames left from you spearing catches would be great.

 

[Tong]

Watch out for "notched" lobsters as well.

What do you mean by "nothced" lobsters??

I take lobo's by hand by have never noticed any outstanding notches!

 

[scottie3030]

I was told when over in St Davids that its the commericals breeding stock so weren't allowed to take those! I think when they land berried lobsters they have to release them but notch the tails so we dont take them! The notch is just a V cut into the end of the tail

 

[sunfish]

What do you mean by "nothced" lobsters??

I take lobo's by hand by have never noticed any outstanding notches!

Notched lobsters are females. If potters take one carrying eggs, they can cut a notch in the tail fin, then it is identified as a female, even after the eggs are gone.
It's illegal to be in possession of a notched lobster.
http://www.bim.ie/templates/text_content.asp?node_id=798

 

[Tong]

Ive found berried lobo's before but never seen a notch one, thanks for the heads up

 

[foxfish]

Another sign of changing times - berries have been a integrate part of many lobster dishes, you can find recipes that use the red eggs in lots of cook books!!

 

[paddyc23]

is there any good lobster spots near moelfre in anglesey, as thats where im heading for a wk with family nxt week