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Better late than never

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Bill McIntyre

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I haven't been out in about three weeks because my back has been giving me fits. In the last couple of days, I've felt that it was at least well enough to give it a try. I almost never go on weekends, but one of my best old dive buddies, Jeff Bonisa, finally had enough of a break in his routine starting a new business and he said he could go yesterday. And he promised to bring some of his magic goop, Mud Energy, so that was incentive enough.

And then Friday night I got an email from a guy I didn't know- Randy Kaufmann. He lurks on Spearboard but never posts, and wanted me to know how much he missed my posts siince my banning. He is sort of a beginner, but wanted to know if he could ride along some day on my boat just to see how the "experts" did it. I said "how bout tomorrow?" Another guy to share gas is always welcome, especially if he says nice things.

When I got up, my back wasn't as good as the day before, but I took 800 milligrams of Ibuprofen and it seemed to perk up, so I had high hopes. So what if I burn a hole in my stomach?

So we left bright and early. The fog was so thick that we had to spend a lot of time off of a plane, but it finally burned off. At the first stop, the water looked blue as near as we could tell in the poor light. Jeff was the first in, and before he could dive, he saw a school of about 20 white sea bass from the surface. He couldn't quite tell what he was seeing, and thought it might be a few blacks, but he dove on them and didn't quite get a shot. This was sort of encouraging, so I jumped in and cocked the gun. Unfortunately, we never saw them again. By the time I was heading back to the boat, my back muscles started seizing up again, so I took another 800 milligrams.

At the second stop, it looked like paradise. You could hardly see through the schools of green mackerel, Spanish mackerel, sardines, and barracuda. There had to be game fish there, but we never saw them. Jeff did see one yellowtail, but it didn't want to play. But my back was OK.

At the third stop, it looked great again- blue water, mild current, and almost as much bait as the previous place. We anchored up-current from the bed. I was cruising the up-current edge and occasionally going down into the bed. On one dive I was cruising along at about 20 feet and saw a white sea bass off my right shoulder, heading in the same direction that I was. There was some kelp close to me that made it hard to swing the gun, so I went forward a few feet hoping the fish wouldn't turn. When it came into sight again, it had turned away and was at a 45 degree angle to me. I was carrying my 60" Wong Super Magnum so I was pretty sure I had the range, but I was afraid I would miss. But I'm not in a position to be selective, so I pulled the trigger. I was so happy to feel that float line running through my hand. I was not sure of my shot, so I didn't put on a lot of pressure as I normally do, but it seemed to stop fairly soon. Jeff happened to be close by, and I told him I had a fish on. My line was going straight down under some thick kelp, but then I could see it on the other side running horizontally. Jeff swam over there and said he could see the fish. He asked if I wanted him to take a second shot, and I told him it depended on how good my shot looked. He dove down and then came back to say he couldn't see my slip tip on the far side, so I told him to shoot it. I didn't want to lose this fish over some sort of pride. He strung it, so after that it was just a matter of sorting out shafts, shooting lines, and float lines. Randy showed up and got to watch "professionals" at work on a cluster---k. He even got to tow some of the mess back to the boat.

No one saw any more game fish, but Randy got to see a couple of molas and his first few big black sea bass. I hope he didn't pick up any bad habits from us. All in all, it was a delightful day, with calm seas, clear and warm (66°)water, and great company. If he comes again, we'll even let him carry a gun.

It was great to get a late-season fish, and I owe it all to ibuprofen and Mud Energy.
 

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Awesome report and fantastic fish... thanks for taking the time to write up :)
 
Awesome report and fantastic fish... thanks for taking the time to write up :)

Thanks for taking the time to read.

Its funny how when I post something in the USA/Canada forum, the only responses I get are from Ireland and Guernsey.:)
 
Seems like we have half of California staying in our house at the moment.. well its only a few really but they are quite load !
My partners brother lives in LA as is over for a 2 week holiday, he comes for the sea bass & lobster LOL
 
Awesome report and kudos for not letting a sore back get into the way of shooting a fantastic WSB!

Are you still happy with your Moana fins?
 
Thanks for taking the time to read.

Its funny how when I post something in the USA/Canada forum, the only responses I get are from Ireland and Guernsey.:)

:thankyou

Happy to get these reports all to myself, and a few others :)
 
Awesome report and kudos for not letting a sore back get into the way of shooting a fantastic WSB!

Are you still happy with your Moana fins?

I am, and also with my Freedive Recovery Vest. Its so comfortable that I don't even notice that I'm wearing it
 
Interesting to hear about the vest have you had it long?

I don’t want to be morbid, but are there any reports of someone being saved by one, or otherwise?
 
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Interesting to hear about the vest have you had it long?

I don’t want to be morbid, but are there any reports of someone being saved by one, or otherwise?

I've worn it on four trips. Its so easy to wear that I don't think I'll ever dive without it.

I haven't heard any reports of people being saved, but I've heard of recent deaths that almost surely would have been prevented had the diver been wearing one.

One recent example that got a lot of notice on other boards involved a guy who died diving in an impounded lake in Arkansas. His buddy said he didn't come up from a dive. There were lots of trees on the bottom, and everyone assumed that he had become entangled in the branches. It took almost three weeks to find his body, but he was just on the bottom in the open, not tangled in anything. I think its highly likely that the vest would have saved him when he blacked out. But even if it hadn't, it would have brought his body to the surface and saved three weeks of searching and uncertainty for his family. And not to be morbid, but can you imagine what it was like for the diver who had to deal with his body after three weeks underwater?

Another one that comes to mind was a guy diving for dogtooth tuna in Indonesia. Apparently the area has stiff currents going in opposite directions and velocities at different depths, and the guys dive to depths of over 100 feet just to take a shot. This guy had a buddy, but a buddy can't see the diver at depth, and its really impossible to help in most cases. His unfired gun was found hanging below his float, but his body was never found. Friends said he was very highly skilled, and had blacked out a few times previously. He owned a vest, but didn't bring it on the trip. I bet a vest would have saved him, but at the very least made it possible to bring his body home to his family.
 
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I'm a big fan of the FRV and want to get one.

A technique that I saw on a spearing site was to surface and immediately fall onto your back.

The logic was that if you had a SWB, you would be face-up floating on the surface.

Makes sense and a great upgrade for a solo spearo... But that in itself is insanely stupid, selfish and like playing Russian roulette while skydiving without a reserve 'chute.

A buddy should be able to mitigate ALL SWB incidents.

A FRV is an insurance policy for going too deep, deep blackouts, poor vis waters, an unrelated medical incident and a poor buddy that isn't paying attention.

My theory: always have a trusted buddy... and use a FRV incase they lose sight of you or a boat of topless models drives past and he loses momentary focus.
 
I'm a strong fan of buddy diving, but sometimes you might as well be alone, even with the best of buddies. Example, diving 60 ft of poor vis off Key West. The current is running, the wind is blowing, a good chop is up, Very hard for your buddy to keep up with where you will surface or see you when you do. Even hard for the boat driver to see divers on the surface. Come up, black out and go back under quickly and good chance nobody will see you.

My vest will be on the way as soon as I can get it going. Demand seems to be high.
 
Hey Bill, which stiffness rating of the Moana fins did you buy?
Would you have picked a different fin? ( softer etc.)
 
I bought the medium stiffness. Since then JD has introduced a hybrid soft and Daryl Wong told me it was even better, but I haven't tried it.
 
My Moana fins finally arrived today :D:D:D

I went for the hybrid soft version.

Not going to get a gap to try them out today but I do suspect I'll have to stretch the foot pockets to fit my foot.
 
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