Breath Hold Tables?

[Gaz D]

Can anyone recommend a good place to go for proven, reliable and easy to follow Breath Hold Tables - I need to improve my bottom times for the coming season (and now seems as good a time to start practising as any other).

Cheers,

Gaz D

 

[Newbie_spearo]

apnea.cz but you have to answer some questions b4 you can sign up, just so they know you know to do the right thing. Awesome tables on there, all automated and will be calculated to you current breath hold and then can be adjusted as you improve.

Good luck

 

[bite ya]

Agreed, i used these too, see TRUX on here.

 

[Gaz D]

Cheers fellas,

I´ll check that site out in due course.

Chris (bite ya), I see from your ´biography´on this site that you have a PB static breath hold of over 6 mins, and that you have only been training for little over a year - any idea how long you PB was before the training started, just to give me some kind of idea as to how much I can aim to improve (looks like we are pretty similar ages, so would be intresting to see what the potential might be for an old geezer like me too)?

 

[bite ya]

Oi less of the old! lol.

My PB was around 2min 30secs at first then i got stuck on 3mins 20secs for ages until i came on here and started to research the sport in more detail then i went from 3mins up to 4min 20sec quite quickly then stright round to 5mins as i changed my diet and shed nearly 2st of muscle off once i started my cardio phase then with some changes in breath up's etc i hit over 6mins...

I usually train at around 5min 30sec now as i'm trying not to influence my holds by diets, blood Ph changes and extravigant breath up's, just getting back to some basics really which is paying off as my tolerance levels are getting much better.

If you want i'll P.M you a good table that will strech you!

 

[Dennis77]

Chris; what do you mean with "diet"? Just to get rid of muscles to eliminate o2-consumption, or do you avoid special food which is meant to be bad for breathhold?

 

[hudasmt]

Hello Chris


Can i get a copy of that table too, might get me interested. The table i see on the threads here when you do the search gets me bored,not that its not effective but gets me into lazy mode...hehehe,laziness is my major problem when it comes to tables...:headI got to increase my hold for 25 secs only after a couple of months of laziness...:head:blackeye then that was it.


Thanks mate:friday

 

[trux]

Chris, you can also enter your table into the Apnea Training Manager, so that others can use it too. The site was developed with that purpose on mind - it is a community resource sharing website. The exercises there (mostly coming from instructors in our club) are offered for free use, but it is expected that users will participate on improving the content. It would be much better for everyone if members contributed to enhancing the exercises database. So far there are very few contributions from any members except those of our own club. Frankly told it is little bit disappointing, because I expected the freediving community would be more open to sharing their knowledge.

Anyway, I have several more dozens of exercises from Cyrnéa instructors on paper, so will enter them into the database as soon as I find some time for it. However, I am little bit afraid that our instructors (and that includes the trainer of the French National FFESSM Team), may soon ask me to stop publishing their exercises to the wide public, if they see there is absolutely no reciprocity and no contributions from APNEA.cz members. They already considered it, and some of them are hesitant entering new exercises to the public area for that reason, and rather keep them in the team restricted area. I would prefer keeping them all public, and continue sharing the know-how, but on the other hand I understand their frustration with the lapse of return.

Well, and if you really do not want to share your exercise with all members, you can make it available to your own team only (if you created or joined one), to your buddies (if added some to your buddy list), or keep it private - in such case only you will be able to access the exercise and run it through the ATM software.

 

[bite ya]

Sorry Trux i forgot i could do that, i will add it into your database for all to see. I have had great success from other peoples experience so i'm not one to keep things secret.

Still love your site and it has benifited me massivley....

Hadasmt...I'll P.M you with the table tomorrow, got a whole day to myself!

Dennis77...I'll do the same for you, also when i mean diet i mean prep before training i.e lowering blodd Ph levels and dosing up on other suppliments etc.

Thanks

 

[hudasmt]

Thanks Chris!!!

Cheers:friday

 

[Gaz D]

Chris,

Yes, would apprecite it if you could send me those tables as well as any other info you might think is helpfull.

Haven´t looked at the Apnea tables yet, as I´m working abroad at the moment, and access to the internet is limited. I did, however, have a go at the CO2 and O2 tables which are published on this forum (wasn´t actually aware that they existed when I posted my original question).

I couldn´t believe it - I had an instant result! I adjusted the timings to suit my previous maximum breath hold of 2 mins (even my girlfriend was beating me on that, and I consider myself pretty aerobically fit). At the end of doing the tables I gave myself a couple of minutes rest, and then held my breath for 3 mins - bizzarre!

Anyway, I can see myself geting in to this a lot further.

Look forward to receiving that info from you,

Many thanks,

Gaz D

 

[Chris_Reid]

Here is a little app that I created to do some tables. You can write and share your own tables with others too by a simple copy and paste of text. This way you can email or even post data here. There is lots of functionality for customization.

I don't know how long I will have this link up ... as I am rebuilding my website now. But on the page there is also a link to a stand alone version that you can download and install. You will need to install adobe AIR to use the stand alone. By using adobe AIR it should be cross platform so won't matter if you are using a mac or pc or linux. To use the web version you just need a browser that supports flashplayer.

HINT:
Once you run the app you can scroll the tables to the top and you will get a build panel. This is where you can copy and paste data. There is also a legend there so you can see what all the details are to cusomize your own table view if you like. Anyways, give it a shot... it helped me last summer go from 2:45 to 4:01. And I am as beginner as they come.


Guess I should say this for leagalities...
If you injure your self or die and want to blame this little app... Sorry. I am not responsible for anything you do nor is the site or anyone but you. ... take responsibility for your self.

ApneaTableMaker Link

Here is an example of the text data you can share. Sorry if I don't get back to you guys any time soon, but I don't visit the site too often. I will try to make it a point so I can get you guys started with it. I have some other tools too, but they are not completed yet. I will post them as I get them to working states.

Also if you have anything you would like to see in here or you are use to in another table, please feel free to pm me or we can start a thread for this tool.

Have fun,

Chris Reid

[COLOR=Teal]<timers>
  <timer timerTime="120s" intervalTime="180s" info="APNEA: 120s &lt;&lt; INTERVAL: 180s" x="20" intervalStartDelay="0" autoStart="true" y="50"/>
  <timer timerTime="120s" intervalTime="170s" info="APNEA: 120s &lt;&lt; INTERVAL: 170s" x="20" intervalStartDelay="0" autoStart="true" y="175"/>
  <timer timerTime="120s" intervalTime="160s" info="APNEA: 120s &lt;&lt; INTERVAL: 160s" x="20" intervalStartDelay="0" autoStart="true" y="300"/>
  <timer timerTime="120s" intervalTime="150s" info="APNEA: 120s &lt;&lt; INTERVAL: 150s" x="20" intervalStartDelay="0" autoStart="true" y="425"/>
  <timer timerTime="120s" intervalTime="140s" info="APNEA: 120s &lt;&lt; INTERVAL: 140s" x="20" intervalStartDelay="0" autoStart="true" y="550"/>
  <timer timerTime="120s" intervalTime="130s" info="APNEA: 120s &lt;&lt; INTERVAL: 130s" x="20" intervalStartDelay="0" autoStart="true" y="675"/>
  <timer timerTime="120s" intervalTime="120s" info="APNEA: 120s &lt;&lt; INTERVAL: 120s" x="20" intervalStartDelay="0" autoStart="true" y="800"/>
  <timer timerTime="120s" intervalTime="110s" info="APNEA: 120s &lt;&lt; INTERVAL: 110s" x="20" intervalStartDelay="0" autoStart="true" y="925"/>
</timers>


<!-- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<---------------------------------------  LEGEND  --------------------------------------
    x                 = x position of timer
    y                 = y position of timer
    alpha            = transparency of timer (range 0.0 - 1.0 )
    info             = ??
    description     = A description of the timer. You will only see this before the timer starts up. And in the tool tip when hovered over.
                        This is a great place to put 'usage' or 'how to' info.
    autoStart         = unit( true/false) this allows for the previous timer to autoStart this timer when it completes intervalMinutes

    ** NOTE
    all time based controls can be input in the following methods.
        standard: 00:01:00 , 01:30, 00:00:30 - these are all the standard type of format with a colon(:) as the delimiter
        decimal<unit> 1.3s, 1.3m, 1.3 15.4ms - default unit is minutes. s=seconds m=minutes ms=milliseconds seconds will come in as integer loosing any decimal values (also milliseconds)
        integer<unit> 120s, 2723ms, 1m, 2s - default unit is minutes. s=seconds m=minutes ms=milliseconds. milliseconds will be converted to seconds and dropped to integer loosing decimal

    ** NOTE
        --- THE ACTION OF TIMER IS AS FOLLOWS ---
        Timer is started and runs for <timerTime>.
        Once completed then there is a delay of <intervalStartDelay>. set intervalStartDelay to zero for it to not run.
        Then the <intervalTime> is started and runs to completion. set intervalTime to zero for it to not run.
        If autoStart is true for the next timer, it will be started at the completion of <intervalDelay>.
        The TOTAL time of the timer module is defined as: TotalTime = timerTime + intervalStartDelay + intervalTime.

    timerTime            = total length of timer (not including intervalStartDelay and intervalTime):
    intervalTime         = time of interval. This does not include intervalStartDelay. Once intervalStartDelay is completed then intervalTime is run.
    intervalStartDelay     = time of delay between timerTime and intervalTime.
-->[/COLOR]

Edited:
to share data all you need is this part of the code. The rest is a comment so you always have the details you need to customize.

[COLOR=Teal]<timers>
  <timer timerTime="120s" intervalTime="180s" info="APNEA: 120s &lt;&lt; INTERVAL: 180s" x="20" intervalStartDelay="0" autoStart="true" y="50"/>
  <timer timerTime="120s" intervalTime="170s" info="APNEA: 120s &lt;&lt; INTERVAL: 170s" x="20" intervalStartDelay="0" autoStart="true" y="175"/>
  <timer timerTime="120s" intervalTime="160s" info="APNEA: 120s &lt;&lt; INTERVAL: 160s" x="20" intervalStartDelay="0" autoStart="true" y="300"/>
  <timer timerTime="120s" intervalTime="150s" info="APNEA: 120s &lt;&lt; INTERVAL: 150s" x="20" intervalStartDelay="0" autoStart="true" y="425"/>
  <timer timerTime="120s" intervalTime="140s" info="APNEA: 120s &lt;&lt; INTERVAL: 140s" x="20" intervalStartDelay="0" autoStart="true" y="550"/>
  <timer timerTime="120s" intervalTime="130s" info="APNEA: 120s &lt;&lt; INTERVAL: 130s" x="20" intervalStartDelay="0" autoStart="true" y="675"/>
  <timer timerTime="120s" intervalTime="120s" info="APNEA: 120s &lt;&lt; INTERVAL: 120s" x="20" intervalStartDelay="0" autoStart="true" y="800"/>
  <timer timerTime="120s" intervalTime="110s" info="APNEA: 120s &lt;&lt; INTERVAL: 110s" x="20" intervalStartDelay="0" autoStart="true" y="925"/>
</timers>[/COLOR]

 

[Gaz D]

Many thanks everyone - I've got plenty to work on now.

Will let you know about my progress in due course (if you're interested - and if you're not, I'll just bore my girlfriend even further with it all, lol!)