C4 Mr Iron

[aimesh]

Hi guys

I am looking to buy a C4 Mr Iron 104.

And I was wondering if it is possible to use 7.5 shaft? i know it would be slower but what would be the drawbacks from using a such thick shaft?

 

[Jegwan]

You can use a 7,5 mm spear - but why?
It will be slower and it is heavier. The C4 guns is well balanced as it comes, so it might get a little unbalanced with the 7,5mm spear. It is my experience that some types of fish can more easily tear from a thicker/heavier spear.


You could consider to use a shorter 7.5 mm spear.
I think 2x16mm rubbers would be good for a 7,5 mm spear.

I'm not sure, but I think that the Mr Iron only comes with a muzzle for single rubbers. I would chose to buy a model with a muzzle for both single and double rubbers if I was going to use it with different spear length and thickness. You can get a Mr. Carbon with a muzzle for both.

It's (in my eyes) like putting a sidecar on a Ducati - so what is your needs and why chose a C4 104 for this?

Sorry; I can't help it - but have you considered if a 100cm pneumatic is what you need?

Jégwan

 

[aimesh]

thx for your replay.

I am a ware that the 7.5 will be slower but i was not sure if it will still be accurate or not. your replay makes sense so I will just stick with the normal size shaft.

the reason for me using a 7.5 is that it got more penetration in the type of fish i am spearing these days!

 

[Jegwan]

I can see that on your new avatar

You could consider the 119 model, if you hunt bigger pelagic fish. 2x16 rubbers and 7 to 7.5mm spear would be a good set up.
I have a a 119 Mr Carbon with double rubbers and 7.1mm spear. I'm very pleased with it's performance.

Jégwan

 

[aimesh]

well the 105 will be for blue tooth tusky fish

 

[sharkey]

Sorry mate I don't know what a C4 MR Iron is, but as your intending to shoot blackspot tusk fish I'd go for a heavier shaft than 7mm. Its not uncommon to find these fish above 10kg & they like hanging around reef. I'd use a 5/16 shaft over a 7mm one for blue bones & lets not forget that you'll no doubt run into a few spanish mackerel in the locations your fishing for them. I use a 3/8, 6ft spear with a pranger & two 5/8 rubbers for this sandy reef edge fishing for tuskies & trout. It punches their lights out & stops them reefing you up & also stops them disturbing their mate, so you can usually pick up the second one. It also abates some of the shark issues when fish don't struggle. I've also landed many of my best mackerel with this set up, although I'd prefer a 5/16 straight shaft for spanish over the pranger if I was just chasing them.

Go 8mm if you can would be my advice.

Cheers Sharkey

 

[foxfish]

I think the opening paragraph from Jegwans post makes the most valid point.
Buying a specialist, expensive gun that is perfectly balanced only to upset this balance with a heaver spear might be a mistake.

 

[sharkey]

A couple of blackspot tuskfish/bluebones so folks know what fish we're discussing.

Cheers Sharkey

 

[foxfish]

Yeah they look pretty tough!

 

[Jegwan]

Nice photo Sharkey!

You could consider a long pneumatic for this kind of fishing - ad a dry barrel kit and you're also ready for a Spanish Mackerel dropping by..

Jégwan

 

[sharkey]

Nice photo Sharkey!

You could consider a long pneumatic for this kind of fishing - ad a dry barrel kit and you're also ready for a Spanish Mackerel dropping by..

Jégwan

Cheers Mate.

Around the early to mid 80's I tried an orange nemrod pneumatic, it didn't work for me & I've never considered a pneumatic gun since. I've learned how popular they are around the world from this forum so I'll have to keep an open mind about them.

These tuskfish taste even better than they look. I love shooting them. They're not a difficult fish to stalk or a challenge, but I just really love shooting tuskies.

Sharkey

 

[foxfish]

I am an air gun fan too, you would be deeply impressed since the development of the dry barrel!

 

[Jegwan]

Well; there's pro's and cons for any type of gun. I use both air and rubber guns. But I do love my dry barrel pneumatics. I totally agree with Foxfish.

The non sophisticated old style ones like Sten and Asso are cheap, have rear handle and they float after the shot.
There is an new old style dry barrel pneumatic on its way - the Salvimar Vuoto. It's basically an updated dry barrel Scubapro Magnum.

The Nemrod referred to sounds like a Clipper - nice gun but heavy and not very accurate being a short midhandle - great with a trident..
It's not really comparable with a longer rear handle pneumatic.

So give the pneumatics a second chance - you can give it a dry barrel kit and paint it in reggae colours if you fall in love with it
I love the paint job on your gun on your avatar - It's awesome!

I have never shot or tasted tuskfish - I have to try that one lucky day..

Jégwan