Does anyone know how to contact Mori to order supplies, etc. does he have a web site? Incompetent that I am I don't seem to be able to find any. Mahalo for any info. Lastly, has anyone ever tried to place strips of molded hardwood partially over the barrel of a gun, say a riffe? a series of predrilled scews and a lite drop of 5500 marine caulk, to come just a little over the top to prevent the lift of the shaft. Is this nuts. should I quit now? would it prevent shaft drop? waddya reckon?
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contact mori? Aftermarket encl. track?
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As for your experiment - I personally wouldn't try it. If you're commited to having a enclosed-track gun, then sell your riffe & get an enclosed track gun
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As for your experiment - I personally wouldn't try it. If you're commited to having a enclosed-track gun, then sell your riffe & get an enclosed track gun
I think what you are contemplating are what are called capture guides. Terry Mass describes them in his first book, and a friend of mine had Kurt Bickel, until lately the editor of Spearfishing Magazine, do them on his Riffe Island, although his were from some sort of plastic rather than hardwood. My friend said that Kurt vowed that he would never do it again because it was so much of a pain in the ass.
In any event, I don't think they would help prevent shaft drop anyway. All they do is prevent shaft whip. If you want to prevent shaft drop, you need to prevent the muzzle rise that results from recoil rotating the gun around the resistance of your hand on the low mounted handle. The ways to do that are to increase the mass of the gun with side stocks, decrease the weight of the shaft by going to a thinner shaft, or installing the Riffe muzzle wings. The muzzle wings increase the mass somewhat, but I think their main function is to just provide resistance to water as the muzzle starts to rise. Before I sold my Island, I installed the muzzle wings, and whereas the gun had previously shot very low with the standard three bands, it was accurate with four bands with the wings. The down side was that it was much harder to handle.
In any event, I don't think they would help prevent shaft drop anyway. All they do is prevent shaft whip. If you want to prevent shaft drop, you need to prevent the muzzle rise that results from recoil rotating the gun around the resistance of your hand on the low mounted handle. The ways to do that are to increase the mass of the gun with side stocks, decrease the weight of the shaft by going to a thinner shaft, or installing the Riffe muzzle wings. The muzzle wings increase the mass somewhat, but I think their main function is to just provide resistance to water as the muzzle starts to rise. Before I sold my Island, I installed the muzzle wings, and whereas the gun had previously shot very low with the standard three bands, it was accurate with four bands with the wings. The down side was that it was much harder to handle.
ROBERT REYES said:
What I mean is that as a midhandle gun recoils, the plane of the recoil is above the resistance to recoil provided by your hand. So the gun rotates around the handle, the muzzle rises, and pushes up on the rear of the shaft as it leave the gun, causing it to shoot low. And I don't think an enclosed track makes much, if any, difference.
My Riffe Island shot low, and since it quit shooting low when I added the muzzle wings, I think it was the water resistance of the wings that fixed it. Some people maintain that it was the fact that the wings brought the bands up into the plane of the shaft that fixed it, but I don't think so. With other guns with more mass but still without anything to bring the bands up higher, there is minimal recoil and they don't shoot low.
BTW, I have seen the muzzle rise on video. Ron Mullins showed me a video he took of a guy shooting a white sea bass, one frame at a time. I think he said each frame represented 1/5th of a second, but I wouldn't swear to that. Ater one or two frames, the muzzle was already significantly higher than when the trigger was pulled. Then the most amazing thing was that when the shaft was about half way off the gun, it was bent down over the muzzle in a big bow, with the rear half being pushed up by the rising gun and the front half being held down by water resistance. I can't imagine that accuracy was improved by the shaft having to snap back and straighten itself out. As the shaft left the gun, the muzzle was at least 12 inches higher than when the trigger was pulled and the shaft was pointing down hill.
