drugs

[Lil Dragonfly]

Does anyone have any info on the risks of freediving while high?

(I am looking for accurate scientific information, not "drugs are evil don't do them" fundamentalist crap)

 

[apneaboy]

Can I ask a personal question?

Are you on some?

 

[trux]

Well, the basic problems of all medications, drugs, or enhancements is that besides their desired effects, they have also side effects, and that they put you off your normal balance. Drugs will also usually influence your perceptions. So unless you always dive under influence of drugs (and always stoned to the same degree) and hence it is your normal state, you will percept different stages of of the breath hold differently than normally. That alone represent already an enormous problem. Then you have plenty of physiological effects that may influence the diving reflex, the oxygen consumption, and other aspects important for the breath-hold. And finally drugs will often also influence your ability to evaluate the risk (or the time) properly, which can bring you easily over the safe edge.

 

[trux]

PS: I also recommend entering the name of your favourite drug into the search box here on DB - there are already couple of threads with some info here. Especially for cannabis or other recreational drugs.

 

[JennyWren]

Freediving is the only drug I need!

 

[Lil Dragonfly]

Thank you Trux.

Does anyone know anything about DXM and freediving?

 

[..Sam..]

Considering some of the possible side effects I'd say no.
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[shoutatthesky]

I would advise against using any drugs whilst diving which alter your perceptions. Free diving is an activity where you really need to be fully alert and coherent. Diving is a pretty stimulating activity and if you need to take drugs to enhance your experience then you should probaly think about getting some counselling.

 

[Lil Dragonfly]

Diving is a pretty stimulating activity and if you need to take drugs to enhance your experience then you should probaly think about getting some counselling.

I am not taking drugs to "enhance my experience". Freediving is wonderful enough as it is.

I have a different reason. Not that I feel like explaining it.

Instead of passing judgement, can we please stick to the original topic?

 

[Lil Dragonfly]

Considering some of the possible side effects I'd say no.
Dextromethorphan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I highly doubt that those side effects are possible with a 60 mg dose (with the exception of itching). I only hit the first plateau, if that.

 

[Lil Dragonfly]

Wasn't there a thread somewhere on DB with a study where they concluded that NMDA-receptor antagonists could protect against blackout-induced brain damage?

Considering that Namemda is used for Alzheimer’s, that study doesn't surprise me...

 

[shoutatthesky]

I have a different reason. Not that I feel like explaining it.

Instead of passing judgement, can we please stick to the original topic?

It is one thing to take drugs and quite another to take medication.

I was simply offering my opinion Lil Dragonfly. You asked about the risks of combining freediving with drugs. I doubt there have been any studies of combining illicit drug use with freediving but the risks in freediving are well documented and adding MIND ALTERING DRUGS to the mix is not something I would personally suggest. Please feel free to disagree....

 

[titan]

Freediving is the only drug I need!

well said

 

[wet]

Actually, depending on your diving locale, the water may be full of mind/body influencing chemicals. All sorts of studies have found waterside soils, water plants, fish and frogs with unusually high levels of estrogen, steroids, vasodilators, vasoconstrictors, methamphetamines, etc. I know that's not your question, but it is real, especially during the storm seasons when basically everything gets washed downstream to the bays, lakes and wetlands, remaining until either settlement or decomposition.

Sorry, can't help on the meds effect on freediving, I stick with organic herbs (used rarely).

 

[ptoot]

I bet the next thread Lil Dragonfly is going to start is: rock 'n roll while freediving :chatup

 

[mermaidgirl]

I got vertigo after taking Sudafed and b/o'd in a training dive. I really did not feel well- nauseous, weak. One never knows the reaction one might have . Fortunately, I had good safetys who pulled me up but I will never take Sudafed or any antihistimines prior to diving again.

 

[chrismar]

DXM can influence your cardio & respiratory systems, along with potential psychological influences. Although I would recommend not diving while potentially impaired, life is all about calculated risk. Please bear in mind though that the risks are not just your own. You may put a buddy in danger, or in the case of an accident, negatively influence the public perception of the safety of a sport that already has an unfairly bad name.

Unfortunately there's very little research into the effect of substances on the human body during voluntary apnea, likely because of the small audience and the potentially fatal consequences of even controlled studies. Though I'm not a drug user myself, I have little interest in mounting my high horse. Like anything, just make an informed and rational decision.

 

[wet]

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