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Elios 3mm SmoothSkin/openCell Heiwa suit

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hey people. spearing in the cold waters of ireland. just ordered a 5mm smooth elios suit. u guys are freakin me out with the comments!! do they seriously tear easily? my buddy got a nylon outside and now im thinking i should have followed suit(no pun intended:t)
 
it really depends on the neoprene... heiwa, yamamoto.. very fragile.. but less so the thicker.. the econoline, not as fragile. You will just have to be sure to lube it up good, follow eliossub instructions on putting it on.. and be careful how you take it off..

They can last a long time with very little or no trouble if you are careful. I just replaced a 5 or 6yr old 3mil smooth outside, but mainly because the exposure to the sun had finally done a number the quality of the neoprene (not under the water enough I guess).

Fred
 
My suit arrived today! Finally. Now waiting for my noseclips.

From what I read in the forums, you guys seem to say that the opencell smoothskin seems rather fragile. However, I seem to find it tougher than I read. I imagined it a lot easier to rip.

Anyway, I put on my wetsuit on just now to try. It was my first time ever trying to put a opencell suit on. Man is it difficult without soap! I tried putting it on with water only, and although I did manage to get it (the pant) on (eventually), I could have spent a whole lot less effort. And I think I have a big head! At least in comparison to my neck. Without soap, it was impossible to out my head through the neck part.

And the pant. I know it's 'high waist', but does it really have to come up so high? When I put my top on, I noticed an obvious bulge in the part where the pant ends under my top. It looks akward, and photos I've seen of people wearing these suit don't seem to have this bulge.

One more thing. I ordered a monofin model of the suit, meaning hands in front when finning. Is it supposed to come with arm sleeves that are too long?
 
Shouldn't be too long - and do use lube to put the suit on. Without you will eventually tear it (my first suit - a 5 mil black shadow in/superstretch out - is fairly ragged on the inside from those first few tries without lube. It may be the arms seem long because, without lube, they are sticking.
 
I'd use a 1-10 or 2-10 ratio cream rinse to water mix for lube.. it's less of an irritant than soaps/shampoos. Once you have the jacket on it sometimes helps to pull it away from your wrists and blow up the arms like a balloon to adjust them. Be sure you get the lube everywhere.
When removing the suit jacket.. be sure it's wet, fold the jacket bottom to your chest and add water so it keeps the suit wet as you peel it off.
 
Fondue (cheese or chocolate?),I did use soap for my (big) head. Without the soap, there was no way my head would fit through. Something seems a bit strange about the way my suit was cut. It's a bit different from pictures from what I could tell.

johnson, cream you say? Any specific type? I mean, I would think it isn't hair cream, is it?

Cheers.
 
not hair cream... cream rinse or what others would call conditioner (typically used after shampoo).
 
I ordered my suit in april and i'm still waiting for it. They said maybe end of august (end of summer!!!).
I don't like that Elios brand that much anymore.
 
I use organic hair conditioner diluted by at least 3/4. This is the busy time for Elios - I usually order mine during the Winter. Their suits are absolutely worth waiting for. The workmanship is superior.
 
DJones said:
I ordered my suit in april and i'm still waiting for it. They said maybe end of august (end of summer!!!).
I don't like that Elios brand that much anymore.
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I hear your pain d jones. ordered my 5mm smooth in april and got it 2 weeks ago. well worth the wait but keep calling and putting pressure on them. managed to tear mine the first day using it........
 
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