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Elios suits - are they all the same?

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Draugen

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I'm looking to buy a made to measure elios wetsuit, but I'm having problems deciding which one - they all seem so similar. Is there any noticable difference between these three suits?

1) Suit 7mm open cell inside / Nylon elastic Black outside Neoprene Heiwa Price Euro 232,00 This is the best-seller for spearfishing, very elastic, warmth, adherent to the body, durable with lining outside and good also for deep divings, but for get into must use always talcum or water-soap.

2) Suit 7mm open cell inside / Kanoko superstetch antitears outside Black Neoprene Heiwa soft Price Euro 260,00 It's an ultra-soft rubber, super-stretch, very very comfortable and very very durable with kanoko reinforced lining outside, but for get into must use always talcum or water-soap. (see photo 0123)

3) NEW Suit 7mm open cell inside / Nylon Hydro-repellent Black outside Neoprene Heiwa soft density Price Euro 269,00 This is the latest new for freediving, very elastic, warmth, adherent to the body, durable with lining outside, fast dry outside like smoothskin because the lining don't absorb the water and good also for deep diving, but for get into must use always talcum or water-soap. (see photo 0123)

I'm looking for warmth and comfort, but I would also like to be able to get out of it after a session Are there any significant differences between these suits - or will it not really matter much which one I get?
 
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Afaik there similar in The way they feel but have different compression values and thermal quality etc. Best ask Elios themselves. I have the heiwa and it's great.
 
They all seem to be Heiwa though.

I got some more info and thought I'd post it here in case someone else are interesed
[FONT=&quot]the n.1 is a medium density rubber, very good for divings around 30/35mts.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The n.2 and 3, soft density is good for diving around 15/20mts, but not fragile, outside durable more the n.1, change only the rubber inside.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Since I wont be going any deeper than 20 m I guess I could go for # 2 and get the added softness. Hydro-repellent just sounds strange..... perhaps warmer on land...
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[FONT=&quot]Is medium density warmer than soft density?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Will the softer density be compressed faster - even if you don't dive deeper than 20 m? So that the suit will not last as long before it starts to get cold?
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hi Draugen

Softer neoprenes have basically more air relative to the amount of supporting neoprene rubber (bigger bubbles and thinner cellular walls).

More air means more insulating factor, but air is compressible while neoprene is not, so soft neoprenes compress more at depth and lose their insulting factor faster as you descend than medium or high density types.

Remember that as a freediver, you'll actually be spending more time on the surface than at depth, and if you are only going to 20m max., then maybe the soft density is the way to go, since you'll be dealing with seriously cold water in Norway.

IME soft is nice for freediving or surface sports like snorkelling. It's the scuba divers who tend to buy suits made out of medium or high density material, since most of their time is spent at depth.

The other factor is durability. Medium & high density neoprene materials are tougher than soft density, but with the nylon protective layer on the outside you should be OK for durability as you slide over rocks, etc..
 
About "Hydro Repellent" lining - it can be a good choise if you need to wear the suit out of water - on a platform, on a boat etc. strong wind and a wet outer lining can cool you down a lot.
 
I have a very soft 5mm elios suit,that if Im diving in water with a cold termocline at depht,-15m, I get cold while im down there...
 
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