Euro riffe trigger failure

[getawayFK]

I just recently bought a 110cm euro riffe and took it couple of dives. What I have to tell about this gun is all positive... Until yesterday when something happened and ruined the rest of the trip.

So first of all, this gun is wonderful. No recoil (with 2 * 16mm bands), silent, easy to maneuver and very accurate with a good range...

What happened is that yesterday after firing a couple of shots, I wanted to reload it and the spear just wouldn't lock into the mech. With couple of try it locked again, and i went for another shot. But then when I tried to load it again, now the spear would simply not lock. I tried in vain in the water and it just wouldnt lock. When back home, I washed it and tried again and it would simply not lock in place, so i dissassembled it (just removed the handle to have a better view of the riffe trigger mechanism, but didnt dissassemble the trigger so not to create a mess, and everything seemed OK and like nothing seems broken, but then when getting the spear in place to lock, the trigger is like hyperextending, and the safety mechanism (although not put on safety; note that i never use safety anyway) is in a way preventing the trigger from expending when pushing the spear in, and that is in a way blocking the spear from getting more in and locking....

I am not sure what to do exactly... I just got the gun 10days ago and the local dealer here says there is no garantee to cover it... I will see if it can be fixed somehow, otherwise I will have to order a new trigger, and getting a riffe trigger from the US to Qatar here will take sometime...

Did any1 encounter a similar problem with riffe triggers? and how did u fix it?

I will try to attach a short clip about the exact problem im having...

 

[getawayFK]

Here is a short clip for a better illustration of the problem:

YouTube - riffe trigger problem

Best regards...

 

[Fondueset]

Contact riffe directly at RIFFE INTERNATIONAL / Spearfishing Equipment for the Silent Hunter
I know with my metal tech I sometimes have to move the line release into position before the gun will load. I haven't tried the euro mech but they may be similar.

 

[Seal]

I have a totemsub pelagos that does this sometimes.
Try this.

Pull the trigger without the spear in the gun. And at the same time pull the line release. Do this several times.

Then try inserting the spear without any line or anything at the line release.


*Also I often have to slam the spear with a loose hand pretty hard into the triggermech to make it hold.*

 

[getawayFK]

I have a totemsub pelagos that does this sometimes.
Try this.

Pull the trigger without the spear in the gun. And at the same time pull the line release. Do this several times.

Then try inserting the spear without any line or anything at the line release.


*Also I often have to slam the spear with a loose hand pretty hard into the triggermech to make it hold.*

I am trying it and is still not working

I guess I will wait for some of the replies here and the guys suggestions... If everything else fails, then I will simply have to order a new trigger... But I am annoyed cause the gun is just new... and it was the last I could have expected... !!!

 

[Fondueset]

have you contacted Riffe directly?

 

[getawayFK]

not yet,but guess ill do soon... I was just waiting for more responses from riffe users here...

 

[Fondueset]

Sooner is better - it can take them a few days to get back to you. Riffe guns have a 3 year warranty so, at the very least, you should get your new mech free.

 

[getawayFK]

Well I did now I hope to hear from them soon. It is strange that the dealer I bought the gun from told me there is no warranty with it... And what is more strange is that he is enlisted as an "official" dealer for riffe products in Qatar....

Guess if I told riffe about it they won't be happy...

 

[metelin]

Well I did now I hope to hear from them soon. It is strange that the dealer I bought the gun from told me there is no warranty with it... And what is more strange is that he is enlisted as an "official" dealer for riffe products in Qatar....

Guess if I told riffe about it they won't be happy...

all riffes come with a 3 year warranty, i think the dealer is full of sh#t.

steve

 

[cjv]

Remove the safety. That will solve the problem.

Cheers/Safe diving

 

[getawayFK]

Are u sure chris about removing the safety pin ?

Do u know how can I remove it ? I was thinking of doing that in the first time...

 

[metelin]

defore you remove the safety try loading the shaft with the line release pulled all the way back towards the butt of the gun. i know there is a spring in there that takes is back automatically but try holding it manually and then loading the shaft. if this doesn't work and you dont have any luck with the dealer take some closeup video of the bottom of the trigger so we can see it better, it's a simple device i'm sure it's dot difficult to fix.

steve

 

[Ron S]

I have no experience with the Riffe Euro mechanism, I have some with other euro mechanisms and also the Riffe "American" mechanism. I've had the same problem you describe with every gun I've owned and each time it's been caused by sand or fine gravel finding it's way into the trigger somewhere. Often the offending grain won't wash out, and sometimes can't even be seen without taking everything apart. I'm not saying this is the problem in your case, but did the gun find it's way onto the bottom or onto a beach just before giving you trouble by chance? I'm hoping you'll find a simple solution, but if not, I'm sure Riffe will take care of you.
Ron.

 

[apnea_beast]

make sure the safety is in the fire position

 

[getawayFK]

First of all: The good news: I fixed the problem.

I also got a personal reply from Jill Riffe and he instructed me on how to fix the problem (Well I already figured it out few days ago too).

Basically the main problem was that the safety tolerance is too tight, therefore preventing the spear from locking and engaging. What had to be done is to remove the safety, and file down the safety notch approximately 18mm deeper and then reinstall the safety and handle and everything would work after that.

Jill Riffe also mentioned me in his email that they received quite number of euro stock that suffered from the same technical difficulty, and that this problem could easily be fixed without the need to replace the trigger mechanism or any part of the trigger.

Thanks a lot to everyone who posted here and tried to help me

Best regards

 

[getawayFK]

I've had the same problem you describe with every gun I've owned and each time it's been caused by sand or fine gravel finding it's way into the trigger somewhere. Often the offending grain won't wash out, and sometimes can't even be seen without taking everything apart. I'm not saying this is the problem in your case, but did the gun find it's way onto the bottom or onto a beach just before giving you trouble by chance? I'm hoping you'll find a simple solution, but if not, I'm sure Riffe will take care of you.
Ron.

Most of the time Im extra careful with the sand getting into the trigger mech, but well sometimes you just cant prevent it... I suffered from this problem with my old imersion gun, where the trigger would simply get stuck in the fire position... What I would do is give the gun a nice little warm soak for like 1hr and then wash the hell out of her ... She always loved it and would feel better after that :inlove