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ben

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Ok.....
I just wondered if anyone had retrofitted a tint to their goggles. Maybe used some of that car window tint foil?

I know you can get goggles with a mirror finish has anyone found that they are particularly effective....im primarily talking about uk bass hunting.

Alternatively has anyone any experience of distracting bass or holding its attention.....maybe with a small coloured chemical light stick or lure on the end of the gun?

Ben
 
I've tried sporasub samourai mask which is mirrored but unless viz is excellent it does diminish field of view. I know one UK spearo who ties trolling lures at end of gun which 'jiggle' in current. This guy has shot 17lb bass so it does seem to work!!!
 
Yep have to agree, I have an Omer Abyss Exclusive with the mirrored lenses and on a good sunny day with good vis of 10m or so it is good, cloudy poor vis it is terrible.
most of the time I use a Samurai or a Big eyes.
 
I have an Omer Abyss Exclusive with the mirrored lenses and on a good sunny day with good vis of 10m or so it is good, cloudy poor vis it is terrible.
Snap! I used to have an the Omer exclusive and the big eyes - untill I broke the the big eyes playing octopush (my nose was nearly broken too - still got the scar) Don't use the mirrored mask much as it is a such a gamble - like huan says you have to be sure that it will be bright and sparkly the whole dive - if the sun goes in or vis goes a bit you suddenly want the clear mask back. When I get my buoy properly sorted I plan on having both with me on a dive so I can swap.
I have a bass lure on the end of my gun and I am experimenting with a squiddy muppet as well - Allways difficult to tell if these things make any difference but I think they hold the fishes attention for that split second longer that may mean the difference between getting a shot in or not. Having said that it fell off the other day and it was still business as usual...
 
Graham,

Are you attaching the "lure" to the gun/spear tip, hanging it below or even floating it from the end?

Being a rod and liner (particularly plug and lure fishing) the idea really appeals to me but im consious that a lure on the end of the gun may attract fish in for a loser look but may also spook them as you swing the gun in their direction. Any experience with this?

I have the first two weeks of sept booked as holiday so i will most certainly be giving this a try........i'll be sure to post the results!

How is the gower fishing at anyway? The bass further west are just returning from their August offshore sandeel and peeling spidercrab feed up and are back on the inshore crabs (september shore crab peel ), blennies and small flatties.

ben
 
Anything hanging off the front of your gun will also slooooow the swing down and could vibrate, not to mention getting tangled up with your shooting line.
I would recommend just using a little more stealth and you won't need all the bells and whistles.
 
I have a question. If a spinner lure or light stick might bring in fish to investigate the end of your spear gun, then what about a small pouch of fish bait? It would bring in the little fish, which would attract the bigger ones. Even better, what about a bait bag hanging from a float. Hang back and see what comes around, or would that be illegal?
 
I hang the lure below the tip of the gun on a swivel so that it moves around and flashes. The squiddy doesn't need a swivel as the tentacles flow as you move the gun. I use a metal lure like a toby or a flouder spoon so that it hangs down out of the path of the shooting line and out of your line of sight. Now that you mention it - i think the lure can spook fish it you try to bring your gun round on a fish too quicky - I'll have to try to work out a way round this. The other negative is that if you come across resting fish it alerts them to your prescence sooner and gives you less time.


Gower fishing has been pretty good this year - more to do with lots of clear water as opposed to an abnormal abundance of fish. I'll be looking out for this september peel although i didn't notice any dissapearance as such. You seem to have a lot of knowledge about fish movements and I would be very interested to hear any other tips you have. I noticed they are whinging about a 'lack' of bass on the gurnsey summer fishing thread at the moment - could this be the same thing? (those boys don't know how spoiled they are rofl )
 
dallasdiver said:
I have a question. If a spinner lure or light stick might bring in fish to investigate the end of your spear gun, then what about a small pouch of fish bait? It would bring in the little fish, which would attract the bigger ones. Even better, what about a bait bag hanging from a float. Hang back and see what comes around, or would that be illegal?

I made a little contraption comprising of a weight, a small mesh bag & three shiny chrismas decoration floats.
The idea was that I would break up a spider crab and put it in the bag, drop the device and wait for the combination of smell and flashers to bring in shoals and shoals of huge bass - all I would have to do was dive down nearby and take my pick. :p
The reality was not a single fish went anywhere near it - and it was a pain in the arse to cart about - and i felt bad about killing the spider crab for no reason. :duh
Haven't used it since...
 
Graham and others,

I wouldn't call myself a bass expert by any stretch of the imagination, the only thing I base my knowledge on is observations and the odd relevant articles in angling mags and the occasional book (generally though I "don't do books")!

I always check contents of a bass just to see what its feeding on and as any trout fisherman will tell you, its all about matching the hatch.

So Bass are around just about all year, in one form or another. Larger fish are territorial and can stay throughout the winter if water temps don't drop too far.
In March-April The smaller fish 0.5lb-1.5lb start turning up, usually in poor condition. May sees a massive increase in Bass numbers as the 2-3Ib fish move inshore with warmer waters. This activity builds and is directly proportional to water temperature and the first shore crab peel in mid to late May. Almost all bass will have exclusively crab inside them! June and early July are stable months with more larger fish 4&5Ibers joining in the feeding usually hard on the sea bed.

Mid July-Mid august sees the number of sand eels, mackerel and other small baitfish increase in number and this signals a change in bass activity. During this time Bass move offshore, to reefs and sandbanks where they fill up on baitfish. Some fish remain inshore to take advantage of the lack of food competition. Its typical during this time to find half digested sand eels and other small fish inside them. In addition during this time spider crabs mass in deeper water to mate. The females have to peel to reproduce and subsequently bass take advantage and can often be found with large soft spider crab legs inside them. (I had one two weeks ago stuffed full).

Mid August sees another peak shore crab peel and the bass move back inshore. Generally they are bigger fish but stomach contents show a mixture of contents. Always small 50p piece size shore crabs, some sand eel, small flatfish and frequently blennies or other small fish......(I had one recently with pipefish and a baby bass or mullet.... it was well digested!). During this time I find fish are more alert, frequently swimming aggressively and with a more purposeful manner. I put this down to the time they have spent catching fish rather than the slow deliberate hunting for crabs.

September and oct are the better months for big fish which return from deeper water and offshore reefs to stock up for the winter. The really Small bass generally disappear and are replaced by pouting and occasional whiting.
Again stomach contents are variable....

Nov can still see plenty of very good sized bass from the storm beaches, but almost nothing to a cast lure......I guess the baitfish have fled with the onset of colder weather and the first of the winter storms. Rough water may also produce worms, razor fish/clam etc.

Now....this may only be what happens on my bit of bass fishing coast (west Wales and in particular South Pembs) so its not gospel. Spearfishing this year has helped me understand localised movements of bass within a reef or a beach so much its unbelievable, but has only really thrown up more questions than it has answered.

Its a mystery......Maybe we need a UK Bass subsection on the forum where we could begin to pool knowledge, begin to understand and maybe think like a Bass!

Lecture over....
Ben
 
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Nice one Ben - all makes sense - it looks like I should be heading for the big reefs where there will be lots of peeler crabs over the next couple of weeks.
 
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