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Fins4U 'Pure Evolution' 100% pure carbon fins

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Apneaddict

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Overview:
These fins are a 100% pure carbon (not a hybrid fibreglass with carbon laminate / veneer) fin made in the UK and available with the incredible Pathos Fireblade footpocket

I ordered mine in "medium / 25" stiffness with "standard" hardness of Pathos Fireblade footpocket (size 40-42).

Dave who owns the company was extremely responsive to inquiries and will help you determine the best choice for you if you have any questions.

They are even on sale right now for £179.96 which is better than anything comparable in the market presently.

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First impressions:
SEXY! I say that not ONLY because of the letter "I" in their logo... but because they are a no-nonsense, high-performance, super lightweight, purpose built pair of race cars that you slip on your feet.

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The carbon fibre (same material used in Formula 1 race cars, amongst other things) is of very high quality with a brilliant sheen and awesome finish. Too bad I will inevitably scratch them up over time... oh well - that will just mean that I've been having fun!

The overall fin / blade combination is SUPER light weight. The pair of them is less than one of my plastic Immersion fins. :D

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Footpocket:
This footpocket has taken the freediving and spearfishing world by storm...and for a good reason. It has been around for several years, but has really caught on like wildfire recently and rightfully so. It is by far the lightest footpocket on the market and having said that... it delivers great power transfer! This isn't hard to do in a heavy rubber footpocket with thick / stiff tendons, but is an engineering feat in one that is lightweight.

The footpocket is made up of a variety of different rubber compounds with different stiffnesses for the different regions of the pocket. Soft where needed for comfort and firm where needed to ensure good power delivery and ensures a direct connection between your feet and the blades.

The area below the "Fireblade" wording is stiff and fairly shallow to help accommodate this.

People with a high arch may find it quite tight on the front / top of the foot and indeed so are mine initially. Having tried my friends' when new and then 6-mos later, I can attest that they will loosen up a bit to accommodate your foot shape. Another way to speed the process up if you are in a hurry, is to (while wearing your intended socks - or a pair of cotton / wool if intending barefoot) heat them up while wearing them with a hair dryer and allowing them to cool back down again and mould to your feet. It might make sense to keep track of L & R in this instance.

I intend on letting them "break-in" naturally with wear, so as to keep them as tight as possible for great connectedness / response.

I have fairly wide feet and find these fit my feet great in the width department.

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Blade:
- Stiffness:
Typically I would tend towards something stiffer than most "medium" stiffness blades, as I consider myself a strong kicker, I'm 80kg, often dive in a 5mm suit (more buoyancy change than a 3mm) and can dive deeper than many recreational divers and spearfishermen. I also would rather a fin be slightly too stiff, than not stiff enough as I like to have extra "power" in reserve in case I have to rescue a blacked-out diver while safety'ing.

These Mediums fit my needs perfectly. They are stiffer than most mediums but not considered a stiff. In fact, I would consider them to be about 1/3 of the way between a medium and a stiff blade.

I believe that a 60-70kg diver without particularly strong legs might want to try the soft (20) blades in the 'Pure Evolution' carbon blades, although I have no personal experience with them.

Note: Several friends have the Leaderfins fibreglass fins with Leaderfins footpockets and some of the stronger / more aggressive finners have commented that the mediums are slightly on the soft side. Just important to keep in mind that all "mediums" are not the same - even when retailed by the same company (as they are manufactured by separate companies, materials and using different methods).

If going with the FG blades, I would strongly urge you to pair them with the Pathos footpockets (fins4u has this option), as they really are amazing and are your connection to the blades

- Flex:
A beautiful, nice progressive flex under load that snaps back to straight quite smartly and provides you with some extra thrust. You get an energy payback from the the previous input.

- Water rail:
The rail on the side of the fins is tall to help channel the water effectively yet supple enough to bend /flex under load without crinkling, buckling or deforming.

In-water impressions:
- Surface swimming:
Compared to all of the other fins that I have ever tried, it doesn't feel like you're wearing anything on your feet due to the super light weight combination of the Pathos footpockets and the light carbon blades! Less power is spent moving and stopping the mass of the fin so that more of the energy goes towards propulsion.

I've used carbon & kevlar blades previously, but when paired with a heavy Omer Stingray foot pocket it really weighed the pair down and made it feel like you had appendages on your appendages. Not so with the 'Pure Evolutions'.

I find that surface swimming is more tiring than any other type of activity in the water and I often pace myself on the swim out vs. getting to my dive site quicker and tiring my legs out (and increasing my heart rate) before I get to the dive spot. These 'Pure Evolution' fins make the surface swim significantly easier and is much less tiring on the quads during the swim out, saving them for your depth diving.

This is even more so the case with spearfishing from shore, as fighting the tides and getting beyond the breakers of a reef can really burn out your legs early and limit your abilities while spearing and reduces your 'safety envelope' while out there. Save the legs for a safer diving experience.

- Down to depth and back again:
During a line-diving and recreational outing (to -25m), I found that I wasn't having to "muscle" the blades in both directions on the descent to get a good sine wave going. The fin was loading up nicely and then returns back to straight with assertive authority, almost a snap, so you end up getting a lot more propulsion per kicking cycle. They are extremely responsive and was requiring fewer kicks to get to the same depth.

On ascent, the same ease of propulsion is again quite evident. What I noticed however is if I wanted to get back to the surface quickly with some strong kicks or did a couple of dolphin kicks, I would really rocket up!

In general, a more gentle / energy efficient kick is preferred for O2 conservation but it is always nice to know that you can lean on them for a bit more thrust if / when needed. These will certainly shine in the deeper dives to come.

Conclusion:
These Fins4u.com 'Pure Evolution" 100% carbon fins paired with Pathos footpockets are a fantastic no-compromise pair of fins. They are super-light, efficient, comfortable and as a bonus, are less $$$ than some other big-name 100% carbon fins and come in a superior foot pocket. I am very happy and these are highly recommended!

Word of warning:
If you buy these fins, you will need to come up with a new excuse! :D
 
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apneaddict,
Great revbiew.
You mention using Imersion plastics. How do these footpockets compare to the Imersions in comfort, width, and weight?
 
apneaddict,
Great revbiew.
You mention using Imersion plastics. How do these footpockets compare to the Imersions in comfort, width, and weight?

I can not compare the weight directly, as the fins are permanently attached in both fins, but it is clear that the Pathos is much lighter. It's the lightest on the market by a long shot.

Width is difficult to say, because my Pathos are 40-42 for warmer water and the Imersions are 42-44 to accommodate a 5-7mm sock for single-digit cold Canadian off-season waters. BTW - here is what I did to the Imersions for ice-diving: http://apneaddict.blogspot.ca/2013/07/cold-waterproofing-your-fins.html :D

If you have a wide mid-foot (1/2 way between the heel and ball), the Imersion is much softer and will likely accommodate / give more. Not sure if this is a common foot shape though.

For comfort, the Imersions are generally a very soft, thick, yet floppy rubber pocket without much structure, besides the thicker rubber rib-extensions that extend back towards the heel from the blade. The rest of the pocket if quite loose / soft. They are comfortable - but I added a 'finsert' ( http://apneaddict.blogspot.ca/2013/07/fin-fitment-tips.html ) to stiffen them up / aid power delivery and also always use tight, thick finkepers to help some more.

The Pathos is a much thinner material and is firm around the bottom 1.5cm of the entire foot pocket like a 'cup' which when included with the firm bottom to the pocket creates a very stable platform. The rubber around the ankle (2.5 - 3 cm) and the 1.5cm nearest the toe-opening are a much softer and more flexible rubber, giving you the comfort that you need, while still retaining some real structure to the footpocket.

Of course the top of the foot area already mentioned above may be the most tight fitting (shallow) area and is what is responsible for the great power delivery on the downkick. Once they are broken in or heated up and moulded to your feet, you won't notice it, except that it feels 100% like an extension of your leg.

The Pathos is just a newer generation of footpocket with various compounds / construction, further along in the evolution much like the Micromask and Mystic are more advanced than the Superocchio / Bandit or Alien masks.
 
Thanks for the reply, I'll keep them in mind when I can justify another pair of fins.
I really like your idea for cold water. During the winter, there sometimes is a layer of Margarita ice on the surface, with seawater below it at 2-3C. It tends to get cold pretty fast, and I always have plenty of duct tape around.
My E-carbons fit really well, so the stiffeners probably won't work, but I'll play around with thin plastic stuff that may help. The Imersion footpockets are, as you mention, really soft. The up side to them is that 1) because they fit well, I can get them on quickly, and with little trouble, even when it's well below freezing, and 2) I have been to -40 m with them and had no trouble getting back. I can also use them with 3 mm socks in hawaii and 7 mm socks at home and the shape is good enough for me that they don't feel like they're coming off.
 
I see this is on older post, but I'm just seeing this now & what a great, super thorough review! And on the day when I'm starting research into my next pair of fins ;) Which will probably be next year sometime as I intend on hopefully advancing my skills, and attending an intermediate course. I wanted to ask you your opinion on the bodyweight, etc. in relation to blade stiffness. My weight typically fluctuates between 90-97Kg depending on time of year usually, and I consider myself a strong kicker as well. Also factoring in a 5mm wetsuit, I wanted to ask your opinion on blade stiffness in regards to my "specs" lol :D Thank You Apneaddict for any & all info, appreciate it!
 
I think Medium would work for you.

I'm about 80kg presently (apnea is shrinking me!!) and primarily wear a 5mm suit and am a strong kicker and would not want a stiffer pair of bi-fins.

For me, they are perfect. I fear that going stiffer would be tough for surface swims and unnecessarily burn out my legs.
 
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