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Floatline capers

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Adon

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Sorry this might be a bit long!
I have been regularly checking the Deeperblue forum for about a year now and thought that it was about time to contribute after learning so much from the regulars here. I have been spearing in Japan for the past four or five years and it has been fun. However, everything including gear selection to finding dive sites has been trial and error (but interesting).
I have been fishing with a gun with no floatline, buoy, or reel. I had used a stringer attached to my weight belt, but as the line is wire I figured that this would be pretty dangerous if it ever got tangled when diving. So after checking out this site I decided to make a floatline. There were a good couple of threads regarding DIY floatlines, and it looked easy enough. Or so it appeared!
I popped to the local craft and fishing shops, armed with my shopping list, to get the necessary equipment:
Mono
15 m of clear plastic tubing
Some split rings
Barrel swivels
Crimps and crimper
After getting home, I decided to try and start on the line, ‘should not take too long’. What a fool!
I first tried to push the mono through the tubing, as this seemed the easiest thing to do. However, the friction between the mono and the tubing meant that after about 3 m it would jam. Bugger!
Next, I tied a length of strong thread to the end of the mono and tied this to a lump of cotton.
I have a pump that I use for my inflatable kayak and one end of the pump blows while the other sucks. So I attached the end of the tubing to the end of the pump that sucks and things looked to be going well. The thread shot up the tubing with the first suck and the next. Hehehe, cracked it!!
No I hadn’t! I managed to get the bloody piece of thread and cotton 3/4 the way through the tubing and then it jammed up! Bugger, bugger. Kept at it for a bit with no luck. Tried pulling the thread back and then trying the pump again, but for some reason it would stick time and time again at roughly the same place. Could this be due to friction? Bummer, how can I reduce the friction?
I then had a brainwave!! I would try and reduce the friction by adding some washing up liquid to the tubing. By this time it was getting late, I was tired, and obviously well and truly P****D **F with this tubing caper!
I proceeded with the washing up liquid idea; again this seemed to do the trick. Yes, I had finally cracked it, I announced to the wife, son and father-in-law! (this was all taking place in the living room!). However, once again the thing jammed about 3/4 way through the tubing! Also some of the washing up liquid had managed to find its way into the pump.
Does anybody remember a Rolling Stones video that consisted of lots of bubbles and sailor’s suits? Well the living room was turning into a remake of that Stones video (minus the sailor’s suits). After a long list of expletives similar to Mutley (if you can remember Whacky Races), I decided to F*** this and go to bed. Could not take any more of the sniggering coming from the wife and father-in-law!
After leaving the ‘project’ for a week, to allow tubing etc. to dry decided to give it another try!! Glutton for punishment!
This time the father-in-law decided to give me a hand. What we decided was to go to the apartment block opposite the house and dangle the tubing from the balcony and feed the weighted thread attached to the mono down the tubing. This failed miserably, again I have no idea why, but we put it down to friction. As a last resort we decided to push the thread into the tubing and when it balled up, pour water down. I bet you are thinking this will fail!!
To our surprise it worked a treat! We had the thread threw in about 15 mins and then the mono. After that it was plain sailing to attach the swivels etc. and have a float line that works!!!
Moral of the story if at first you don’t succeed try, try and try again but forget using mono! I gave the floatline to my friend as a Christmas pressy, so for the next one I will be using dyneema! And there will be a next one!
 
If it will make life easier for you there is a good illustrated description on how to make these on spearfishing.com
 
Thanks Pastor for the link. I am going to give it another go using the info that you sent and also from my experience with the last one.
Are you in Wales? I can’t believe that you are spearing over there. I am from Scotland and my memories of going to the sea were always painfully cold!
I take my hat of to anybody that is spearing in the UK.
Have not been back in a while, but the next time I am over I will be taking my gear and give it a try!
Thanks Ron, I booked marked your page. Do you use mono in the tubing and if so how do you get it through the PVC?
Cheers!
 
Hey dude, sorry I missed your post. Yeah I'm in Wales, it's not that bad here really but perhaps I'm just used to it now. Some of the best spearing in the UK within a couple of miles of where I live so I'm like a pig in s..t. Where are you now?
 
Hi there,
I went to Porthcawl a long time ago, was a really good holiday. Was the one and only time I went to Wales. If I am over in the UK again I will be going. Take the old dear as she has only ever been to Scotland in the UK.
I am living in Chiba, Japan, pretty near Tokyo Disneyland. Spent three years down in Kagoshima. That was where I started spearing. Good spearing down there!
Just came back from a weekend on the Izu peninsula, but all the spots that I went to had no spearing signs!
Will be heading out later this month with Yug Yug (Guy) for a weekend on one of the Izu islands. He did a report a couple of months back and posted it on the DB forum.
Cheers,
hideo
 
Well when you come give us a knock, it would be good to hook up and do a little fishing
 
Thanks I am up for that. I actually met Guy through this site. We have been on a few good trips.
I just got a 5 mm Cressi suit that would be perfect for Wales!
Cheers
 
No worries. 5mm is perfect for here. I have met a few DBers who have come up for a spot of fishing, always nice to meet new friends
 
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I have been fishing with a gun with no floatline, buoy, or reel. I had used a stringer attached to my weight belt, but as the line is wire I figured that this would be pretty dangerous if it ever got tangled ...............

I do the same, i get snagged all the time, a good test for a cool head!

My question is this, and very dumb: why are these tube covered mono line float lines good? If I decide to use a float, why not a simple length of that white braided nylon cord, say 1/8 o 1/4" diameter???? What are the advantages??

I dive in a very rough rocky area (was in yesterday, came out tired as can be..) I'm not sure what will happen to the float in these conditions..

Thanks,

Simon
 
I think the main advantage must be that they are very difficult to tangle or get snagged on rough bits of this or that (rocks, wrecks etc.)

I dive in a rough rocky area too, the float just seems to ride over the rocks most of the time, it does get snagged occasionally but not often.

Dude, change that wire stringer cable to nylon or mono if it's on your belt, best be safe
 
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Dude, change that wire stringer cable to nylon or mono if it's on your belt, best be safe

thanks for the reply, i use a home made stainless steel wire stringer, but fixed with cord via a quick release knot to my weight belt.

Its dumb I know, but I hate to loose things in the water, i makes me wonder to what point I would go to recover them. I did a 20M dive to recover my knife this weekend (deep for me, why do I always drop things at the deepest part of any dive??????). For some reason the brain values these accessories over and above good sense.......
 
Another benefit of a float is you can keep your stringer on that and free yourself up.

I have a little hair elastic thing looped over the handle of my knife as I just don't trust those crap clippy gimics that all modern knives seem to come with.
 
That would be good, I HATE DEAD FISH tied to my belt. They bob around in my face, and, although sharks are rare here, when i see blood running from them I can't stop that jaws music in my head!!

Do you have any good websites with spearo DIY stuff??

Thanks
 
Not as such, there are a few good bits and pieces here as well as spearfishing.com. There are a couple of diy gun websites floating around too that are always worth a look, check out a member called persiko who has about the best of them
 
I just came back from a trip to Miyake jima. Yug Yug posted a trip report about a previous trip there in October last year.
The entry area is really rocky and the waves were really pounding in.
With the float line, I think that it causes less drag and also as Pastor says it does not tangle as much, compared to the nylon cord. Also if you are prone to dropping things then it is a good way to retrieve your gun if you drop it or if a fish is holed up and you are running out of breathe.
This link helped:
http://forums.deeperblue.net/diy-homemade/35362-how-make-your-floatline.html

I think that Dyneema would be better for the core as the mono stuck to the vynal tubing and was a real pain. Good luck with the line!!

Managed to get a couple of amberjack. My first!
 
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