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FOM/SH Discussion thread for 2013

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Jonny250

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Well folks, it won't be long now [yes really!]...
The days really are getting longer and it's just possible that the sea will calm down eventually.
We have the format for the Fish of the Month [FOM] and Specimen Hunt [SH] pretty much sorted out, its going to be a good year!
The first FOM and SH will start in March, so go sharpen your spears
The new format for the SH will be announced shortly!
 
THE 'Old Man Dave' Fish of the Month and Fish of the Year and Specimen Hunt COMPETITIONS 2013

This year the OMD FOM trophy will be a beautifully shaped trophy with the name of the winner engraved. These are hand-made by our very own spearo MIRROR [send him some rep!], with the kind help of venturesports/spearfishingstore.co.uk who will sponsor a prize at the end of the year.

We will run the Fish of the Month [FOM] in the same way as previous years; we will also run a separate Specimen Hunt [SH] competition over the course of the year.

The poll will be added on the 1st of each following month and will run for five days.

Please read the rules below before posting an entry.

FOM Rules:
1. The entrant must have posted five times at, or before, the last day of the previous month to the current competition.
2. Entries to be accompanied by a photo containing a newspaper or magazine dated on the day of the catch; the date is to be clearly legible.
3. All legal species are included, local minimum size limits should be observed.
4. Entries must be posted by 09:00 on the first day of the following month of the competition.
5. Winners will be chosen by a poll. In the event of a draw the first entry posted will be declared the winner.
6. Voting will last for five days after the poll opens.
7. Multiple entries are allowed, but only one entry per person can be forwarded for the poll.
8. More than twenty entries will be shortlisted to twenty by the db staff.
9. Catches to be weighed in pounds and ounces.
10. The FOM & SH will run from March to October, inclusive.
11. All decisions made by db staff are final.


Specimen Hunt [SH] additional rules:
12. The winner of the specimen hunt competition will be the spearo with the most percentage points accumulated over the year. Details of how points will be awarded are given below.
13. To enter the SH, the fish should be entered in the FOM as above, and it should be clearly stated that the fish is also for entry into the Specimen Hunt.
14. ONLY the fish species given in the table below, which meet the minimum size requirements given in the table, may be counted in the SH: 16 species to try for.
15. In the case of a draw, a poll will be run to decide the winner by public vote.
16. SH Points are awarded as follows:
fish #% = [a X d] + b ['a' multiplied by 'd' then add 'b']
score % = (fish X% + fish Y% + fish Z% + etc) / number of fish of that species entered:
a: % points for fish weight as a percent of the "Specimen Fish Weight"
b: % points for catch report [awarded at the discretion of the DB staff].
d : multiplier: the first fish of a species entered is worth 1 x the above 'fish #%' points; subsequent fish of the same species added to the SH may be counted but will be subject to a multiplier of x 0.7 . These will then be averaged with the first fish score to produce the % score for that specimen.

  • Please note the larger minimum size requirements given in the SH table.
  • Please note that a good catch report/contribution on the forum will be rewarded as part 'b' above.
 

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Is night spearfishing allowed?:duh
Yes. good question. emotive subject! for some people this provides the only option for spearfishing for many months of the year. However i would encourage peeps to join in the competition on the basis of day-caught fish where possible.
 
Yes. good question. emotive subject! for some people this provides the only option for spearfishing for many months of the year. However i would encourage peeps to join in the competition on the basis of day-caught fish where possible.


How about a poll

1) to see if people would like to continue to include night caught fish

if so,

2) should the rules be adjusted to weight in favour of day caught?
 
The only thing about day night diving vs day diving, is that aroun my area certain species such as red mullet are pretty much non existent during the day. So that will straight away put some spearos at a disadvantage. And as you say some people are restricted as to when they can dive because of family and work commitments. So I think it would be unfair to almost discriminate against them.

But I agree with Mike maybe the only way to solve it is a poll.
 

Surely that's the same argument as someone from Scotland saying that people from the south have more fish species full stop, day or night? Surely there are already spearo's at a disadvantage...
Hmmm, or maybe if you have poor fishing grounds like the north of the country you should be allowed to dive at night....
Tough call all right.
 
To be honest, the species hunt is utterly irrelevant to anyone who is not on the South Coast or the Channel Islands.
 
Reactions: bobdonny

Touché..... Good point well made. But I do think if you are going to differentiate between day and night diving you should also do the same thing for boat vs shore diving. I personally feel spearfishing is spearfishing, you make the most of the facilities and venues you have, you swim with fish and you shoot fish. So all disciplines should be accepted into this competition, and all should be judged equally
 
To be honest, the species hunt is utterly irrelevant to anyone who is not on the South Coast or the Channel Islands.

Do you mean because there are no species on the list in your area, or because you have different species, or because you guys don't intend to enter? just trying to understand what you mean bros.
 
Do you mean because there are no species on the list in your area, or because you have different species, or because you guys don't intend to enter? just trying to understand what you mean bros.

Sorry, wasn't clear - it's just the lack of species and the general size of the fish mate.

Up in North Wales for example, we're very limited in terms of the species we can hope to find. In general, if you come home with anything other than of Bass, Grey Mullet, Pollack and Flounder you've caught something pretty special.

In terms of the size of fish... well... anything above 4lbs is exceptional, especially shore diving.
 

Same in Ireland. If we were lucky enough to catch more than 5 species from that list it would be an exceptional years diving.... from shore or boat, night or day
 

Sure The Master Dario would have something go say about that .If we put in the time the Dorset Lads put in ,in the water ,the species list would double.
 
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I dont think any one would dispute it is far easier to shoot fish at night & in my eyes a red mullet caught in daylight is worth ten caught at night but I guess the voters can decide that for themselves?
I think we should most definitely specify night or day time fish in the voting list.
 
Sure The Master Dario would have something go say about that .If we put in the time the Dorset Lads put in ,in the water ,the species list would double.

It's a shame we all live hours from the coast rofl

To the best of my knowledge, I think Dario once had a small Guilthead, apart from that, nothing else to add to the list I mentioned and he fished probably 14+ hours every week. We just don't get the species, nor the numbers or size of fish that are found down South.
 
Scotland/NorthEast has 4 reliable species - Getting to 5 would be a massive accomplishment. I therefore propose any species caught north of the Watford junction should be multiplied by 3.
 
I think it could be debated until the cows come home. You want more fish - go find them. Don't get the fish - don't enter. Don't intend to enter - don't debate.

After all 'you can only p!ss with the c0ck you've got' so you'll just have to live with it! :girlie
 
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Reading this has post has irrevocably lowered my IQ.
 
glad to be of service y'awl :wave

...always a pleasure! never a chor! :hmm
 
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