Freedive watch/computer with heart rate monitor?

[Anders]

Is there one out there?
I've been thinking this would be a great idea, but haven't found any out there yet. I know Suunto makes both HR monitor watches for exercise and dive computers, so they shouldn't have much trouble fusing the two..?
It would be cool to see how my HR changes when I'm diving, and also to be able to check HR before descending...

 

[diver87]

Uwatec Galileo Luna
Price is about 5xx € here in Germany.

 

[nostres]

diver87, Anders is looking for FREEDIVING computer with HR, not SCUBA computer with 4 sec. sampling

Sorry Anders but we have to keep on waiting, which is bad since this is very simple device that should be included in FREEDIVING computer long time ago.
Especially since they cost few hundreds dollars

 

[diver87]

The Uwatec Galileo Luna has a Freedive modus and measures your HR!
But only the German version as I can see...
GALILEO LUNA - SCUBAPRO-UWATEC

 

[nostres]

That's even worse, I mean unfair
But seriously, for the price and SIZE I don't wan't it anyway. I just wonder what is the sampling rate in APNOE mode - it does not say. It only says 4 seconds (in all modes) which would be very bad for freediving mode

 

[nostres]

Just found it

Apnoe Modus:
....Berechnungen 4x/Sekunde

 

[diver87]

4x/Sekunde means four times per second. It´s like 2m/s ---> 2 meter per second.

I have tested one last year and it worked well.

 

[nostres]

I know, at first I thought it was sampling every 4 seconds now found 4x/s in Apnoe mode.

Look here at his American brother, no Apnoe mode, gauge mode instead.

UWATEC Galileo Luna Hoseless Wrist Dive Computer Complete with Transmitter

 

[nostres]

Obviously 4 seconds sampling in Air & Nitrox mode. Got it

 

[diver87]

Hmm a friend of me was involved in the engineering of the Freediving Modus and I was only able to test a "test model".
I don´t know why it is only in germany available with a Freedive modus. :head

Yes it is BIG and expensive... but I can say it is great to see your HR before the dive, immediately after the dive you can see your lowest and highest HR.
As i know it only can go down to 30bpm! That´s crap!

 

[trux]

Yes it is BIG and expensive... !

Actually for what it offers I do not find it expensive at all. A Suunto D4 is not much cheaper and has half the functions, longer sampler rate, no user-replaceable batteries, no heart-rate monitor, no user-reprogrammable processor, ...

Frankly told, the size is the issue, not the price. I'll have to try to find it somewhere here to see how big it really is in reality, and if it really disturbs during the diving.

 

[trux]

Additionally, at D4 and practically at all other computers, you have to buy the data cable separately, and they sell it usually pretty expensive. The Uwatec computers have infra-red interface, hence no extra cost for that.

Now, the question is whether you can really find the Luna or Sol computers including the HR monitor belt for 5xx€ or if you rather have to purchase the HR option separately for some 100-200€ as I saw somewhere.

 

[trux]

Hm, it really is huge. Even more than I thought. Almost like a sixpack of beer:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnZ9EW-Bg0A&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - A perfect day with Galileo - Enjoy the Experience by SCUBAPRO - Ep1[/ame]

 

[nostres]

Trux please bear in mind that hr monitor is not standard but $150 option and it won't show 20bpm
Look how cheap separate hr monitors are and how is freediving exploding-big market.
What we deserve is computer size of D4 or F10 with HR monitor, under $400
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[Anders]

Thanks for the info, at least I wasn't the first to think of it (usually I'm not), but that thing was MASSIVE! I was thinking something more in the lines of a wristwatch, not a mini PC, size wise

I guess getting a REALLY waterproof exercise watch with HR monitor in addition to my D3 could be one option, but it's not that important to me...

 

[efattah]

You buy the Uwatec Galileo, then you download the APNEA software package. Then you have a freediving mode with the heart rate monitor. I dove with it at Vertical Blue 2008. I think it is worth it, despite the size. I have been wanting but one but so far can't afford it. The only problems are that during packing and shortly after packing, the cardiac arrythmias confuse the device.

If you are looking for a wrist watch size product, keep waiting for a few more decades. And if you are looking for a cheap product that does it, then you will wait forever.

 

[nostres]

If you are looking for a wrist watch size product, keep waiting for a few more decades. And if you are looking for a cheap product that does it, then you will wait forever.

400$ is not cheap and that's what top freediving computers cost - D4&F10.
Adding hr monitor is both cheap and easy. By doing so, some company would kick competition in the nuts.
With technology being where it is I don't see any reason why we should wait so long for such device, it can be done tomorrow (if someone wants to do it)
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[Mullins]

The Galileo is great fun, I tried it in Egypt and at VB with Eric. It did tend to record each ventricular contraction as a separate beat though, so I had to halve the numbers. I don't remember if that happened in Bahamas, maybe they'd updated the software.

 

[DivingDane]

Demand v, design and development cost. thats the biggest issue.

look at the cost of a Polar unit (only main stream brands with a heart rate band that goes to depth) it costs couple of hundred dollars for the most basic models and
as much as a scuba computor in the higher models (log book etc)
and think about how large the makret is (millions of people)
then look at the frediving community and those that would be willing to spend $500 or so dollars for this unit (if that price is realistic when it comes to purchase power) maybe if we are lucky 2000-3000 people and thats being optomistic.

manufacturing costs and development costs for any product in any field are effected by the number of units purchased. if the makret was millions of people world wide then the unit production cost would be much smaller and this pricing could be past onto the consumer, but sadly demand is only relatively small by comparison to the fitness industry.

the technology is there though which is a good start.

on a side note the heart rate monitors from Polar i am pretty sure only work down to 30m depth? and this is the brand that Uwatec use so i am assuming the unit does not read below 30m anyway? is that correct. if it goes deeper then the unit would be well worth while then.

the other limiting factor i can think of is that in competition anything that tells you what is happening inside the body is not legal heart rate monitor, Oximeter etc.

O2 levels would also be nice to be able to read underwater, and this is also doable and could maybe be added to a unit down the track as well?

DD

 

[azapa]

Here are some screens from freedive mode. it really didn't feel too big in the water.

Couldn't wear it out in the evening though, unless you are Dave's size ...