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hi,

i'm adding a ARTICLES page to our website. most if it will be presentations written by our instructor candidates during their AIDA instructor course at freedive dahab.
i'm uploading the very good ones, and i hope there is some interesting stuff for DB readers:)

here's where you can find them:
Freedive International - ARTICLES

there are only 2 for the moment, but planning to upload more soon:)

cheers,
linda
 
I've just managed to read the first article about the pure oxygen breath holds now. A very nice presentation, listing different aspects of the pure O2 apnea. Very interesting topic, and indeed still not sufficiently studied. Likely, there will be no miraculous new explanation of the mystery anyway - the later urge to breath certainly comes as a result of all (or most) of the aspects listed in the article. The studies just need to quantize better their respective contribution. The mental aspect may be perhaps more important than it sounds.

However, I was surprised not seeing two of the most important aspects listed in the article: the Haldane effect and the hyperventilation. Pehaps Sina could add them to the list, so that the article is more complete.

When preparing for an O2 breath-hold, and breathing from a regulator, even if you are not aware that you have to hyperventilate strongly before an O2 breath-hold, you will do it. First of all unconsciously because you are preparing for an unusual performance, and then because when you breath from a regulator, you won't take any shallow breaths, but you will certainly take several full deep breaths, which already represent serious hyperventilation. And if you know something about O2 breath-holds, you'll hyperventilate as much as you can, since unlike at hyperventilating with plain air, it does not represent comparable risk - you risk neither an early BO at the start, nor the reducing of hypoxic tolerance due to the shift of Bohr curve - it is irrelevant at O2 apnea, since you will quit the hold far before the blood starts to desaturate.

And then, even without the subconscious or voluntary hyperventilation, the high ppO2 in lungs leads to faster evacuation of CO2 from the blood, hence already breathing pure O2 without hyperventilating has similar effect anyway.

And that's already related to the second very important factor omitted in the article - the Haldane effect. The Haldane effect is a property of hemoglobin to bind CO2, in relation to the O2 concentration. Simpler told, oxygenated blood has a reduced capacity for binding/carrying carbon dioxide. So when you do an O2 breath-hold, the CO2 produced in tissue is not being bind to the hemoglobin and transported away in the blood in the same level as normally, but in a much reduced way. It stays in a much higher concentration in the tissue where it is produced, and does not reach with the same force the chemoreceptors in the medulla oblongata or in the aortic body. Hence later urge to breath is not really so much surprising as presented in the article.

These two effects alone certainly do not explain everything, but I believe that they are contributing to the delayed urge to breath considerably, and that they should not be left out of a review addressing this topic.
 
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I've just managed to read the first article about the pure oxygen breath holds now. A very nice presentation, listing different aspects of the pure O2 apnea. Very interesting topic, and indeed still not sufficiently studied.

Hmm,

I've had some questions about oxygen toxicity when using pure O2 for freedives. I know you don't do it often, and it will be for very short times, especially at depth.

Most people think about the CNS and ocular effects of O2 at pressure, but I've also read of pure O2 causing damage to the alveolar lining in the lungs.

Are you aware of any information on lung health and oxygen use?
 
I've had some questions about oxygen toxicity when using pure O2 for freedives. I know you don't do it often, and it will be for very short times, especially at depth.

'We' don't use it at all at depth. At least not as far as I know. Surface only.
 
O2 breath-holds are performed practically only for the purposes of research, experiments, or for Guinness records / TV shows, and as Dave told, only for static apnea at surface. So the negative effect at such occasional use is rather limited.
 
I am sure Eric (Fattah) would have tried it lol

In fact I seem to remember him saying something on another post about having tried it at shallow depths and still the narcosis was intense...

Maybe he can verify the above - Eric apologies if the above is inaccurate, I have a terrible memory!!!!
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In almost any basic physiology textbook you will find information relevant to the discussion regarding why O2 breath holds are longer. In the textbook "Human Physiology - The Basis of Medicine" by Pocock and Richards you can find the following:

"...the sensitivity of the respiratory drive to carbon dioxide is greater during hypoxia than it is when the PO2 is normal. The effects of hypoxia and hypercapnia are not simply additive; they have a strong synergistic interaction. This is of some importance during breath-holding and asphyxia, where hypoxia and hypercapnia occur togehter."

This means that O2 breathing prior to an apnea will more or less abolish the hypoxic ventilatory drive and reduce the hypercapnic ventilatory drive, allowing longer apnea.

/Johan
 
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