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Freediving breathe up techniques video
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Nice videos for people who want to start.
However, regarding no-warmup approach. Some people consider even 3 deeper purges before finale inhale as hyperventilation
However, regarding no-warmup approach. Some people consider even 3 deeper purges before finale inhale as hyperventilation
Nice videos for people who want to start.
However, regarding no-warmup approach. Some people consider even 3 deeper purges before finale inhale as hyperventilation
Yes you are right
, some say that. My personal opinion is that if you take three calm and deep breaths you should be okey with the maximum amount of oxygen in your system. Sometimes I even take only 2 breaths before I go. What is your opinion on this? Do you think it's hyper.v?
Best regards Freediver Youbuur
Yes you are right
What is your opinion on this? Do you think it's hyper.v?
Best regards Freediver Youbuur
I'm one of thoose who believe that any kind of breathing that is different than tidal is hyperventilation.
I Agree Mateusz. With the exception perhaps of underventilating.
In the video I find myself disagreeing with the 3 deep breath "no warm up" breathup... I my book it is still too much hyperventilation. I prefer just laying on my back and underventilating, then a slow deep exhale, 2 inhales (on top of each other) and go.
Also the standard of adjusting the dive to the contractions does not provide safety, because the depth as well as the level of hyperventilation, exhaustion, anxiety, workload, weights and many other factors greatly vary. Deep diving is difficult as well as challenging with so many variables.
If I where to give beginners advice on deepdiving, it would be pointing out such variables, and advising them so seek and freediving expert/buddy. However I could make video's on the various techniques employed, equipment and it's use, safety and practical philosophy of deep freediving.
I'm looking forward to your next video, as you're rapid firing them out it seems!
In the video I find myself disagreeing with the 3 deep breath "no warm up" breathup... I my book it is still too much hyperventilation. I prefer just laying on my back and underventilating, then a slow deep exhale, 2 inhales (on top of each other) and go.
Also the standard of adjusting the dive to the contractions does not provide safety, because the depth as well as the level of hyperventilation, exhaustion, anxiety, workload, weights and many other factors greatly vary. Deep diving is difficult as well as challenging with so many variables.
If I where to give beginners advice on deepdiving, it would be pointing out such variables, and advising them so seek and freediving expert/buddy. However I could make video's on the various techniques employed, equipment and it's use, safety and practical philosophy of deep freediving.
I'm looking forward to your next video, as you're rapid firing them out it seems!
Hey bro,
I tried to answer short but it got pretty long
.Thank you for the feedback. Im glad you wrote it down, this is why i posted on this forum. Well as i say in the video this is only my way of doing it. And the tests I've been doing is exactly with the same equipment, same type of lake but different breathing techniques. And I'm sharing my results with everyone, and also telling how it feels for me. Of course, and as always people do this different ways, sadly some is dangerous.
I had to learn the hard way going courses learning the wrong way from certified instructors and then getting blackout and samba.. Strange right. Also as you know body's work different for everyone, I don't feel that 2-3 calm deep breaths and the third is the hold is hyperventilating In that degree that it makes it dangerous. Maybe I can be more clear I'm the video about this being calm breaths. But as everything else this is my way only. There are so many factors as you speak of, the trick is to try getting everything in a video, it's almost impossible, I mean, my recent upload is 10 min long. Longest video on breath hold on YouTube. There are more coming out. I have a lot of plans covering everything you are writing, and together I think it will be the best advices out there. But I have to start somewhere right, and this is where I decided to do it.
Regarding the contractions is a measurement were it is the latest at it can come. I was taught this by a really good freediving instructor that have a couple of old records. The latest we're 91 meters in cwt, also I verified this with 3 other instructors 2 from another source they all reacted the same, "-yes this is a good measurement". And now you disagree, which is understandable, and I respect this. As you know everyone has there own way of doing it. I can only take the information I get, try it myself, verify it with others and If I like it them share it as my way.
However I thank you for your comment and I hope you follow me and I look forward to more feedback on other topics aswell in the future. Take care and dive safe bro!
Best regards Freediver Youbuur
Check out my YouTube freediving channel for freediving videos, how to's and gear reviews.
www.youtube.com/freediveryoubuur
Thanks Youbuur.
I've reviewed your video, and think the way you've said is ok. My fear is only that in regard to measuring how deep one ca go, beginners will (subconsciously) hyperventilate, and swim down UNTIL they get the first contraction. With the No warm-up, no hyperventilation the contraction depth limit is also for me a reasonably safe point of return.
Maybe make a little video about beginner pitfalls? - things that beginners do wrong the most. Could also be a little DB research topic, though any instructor would be able to give you a nice list.
Maybe also make a video what is so nice about freediving, the different kinds and flavours, who is fit to freedive, etc. it's a pity I do not live nearby because I also like to shoot video and dive
I've reviewed your video, and think the way you've said is ok. My fear is only that in regard to measuring how deep one ca go, beginners will (subconsciously) hyperventilate, and swim down UNTIL they get the first contraction. With the No warm-up, no hyperventilation the contraction depth limit is also for me a reasonably safe point of return.
Maybe make a little video about beginner pitfalls? - things that beginners do wrong the most. Could also be a little DB research topic, though any instructor would be able to give you a nice list.
Maybe also make a video what is so nice about freediving, the different kinds and flavours, who is fit to freedive, etc. it's a pity I do not live nearby because I also like to shoot video and dive
I'm with Kars and Mateusz in that I believe all 'special' breathing outside of tidal is hyperventilation.
Also, I do not see any advantage in HV. Sometimes the question is framed as "How much HV can we get away with before it is dangerous?". But why would you want to get away with any at all?
I got my hand slapped in this thread, for this POV.
These days I don't use the word breathe up, but just ask people to relax.
Also, I do not see any advantage in HV. Sometimes the question is framed as "How much HV can we get away with before it is dangerous?". But why would you want to get away with any at all?
I got my hand slapped in this thread, for this POV.
These days I don't use the word breathe up, but just ask people to relax.
Thanks Youbuur.
I've reviewed your video, and think the way you've said is ok. My fear is only that in regard to measuring how deep one ca go, beginners will (subconsciously) hyperventilate, and swim down UNTIL they get the first contraction. With the No warm-up, no hyperventilation the contraction depth limit is also for me a reasonably safe point of return.
Maybe make a little video about beginner pitfalls? - things that beginners do wrong the most. Could also be a little DB research topic, though any instructor would be able to give you a nice list.
Maybe also make a video what is so nice about freediving, the different kinds and flavours, who is fit to freedive, etc. it's a pity I do not live nearby because I also like to shoot video and dive
Kars, i love you feedback I will definitely put this to do video list. I was recently on a freediving camp and we did a long list of what not to do and newbie mistakes. So I will make this one as you request
.Where do you live maybe I can come to you someday lol
.This is great advice bro
. Best regards Freediver Youbuur
Check out my YouTube freediving channel for freediving videos, how to's and gear reviews.
www.youtube.com/freediveryoubuur
Hi champ,
I refer to my answer that I gave Kars. Thank for the input
. Also in all my videos I always say that HV is a big no, and dangerous! And should not be practiced by anyone. As you surely understand I think a bit different about 2-3 slow deep breaths.Take care.
Best regards Freediver Youbuur
Check out my YouTube freediving channel for freediving videos, how to's and gear reviews.
www.youtube.com/freediveryoubuur
Since ya from Sweden, which part are you from? I went to Sebastian Näslunds Nordic deep 3 times in the neighbourhood of Lisekill, nice place, I would love to know how Sebastian is doing, and how his castle is coming along!
You're welcome to stay at my small humble place anytime. I have only 20m depth nearby, and a 25m pool, but at a distance we have a nice 50m pool.
You're welcome to stay at my small humble place anytime. I have only 20m depth nearby, and a 25m pool, but at a distance we have a nice 50m pool.
The castle is growing
. I was there recently. He is doing great as always, great guy!Best regards Freediver Youbuur
Check out my YouTube freediving channel for freediving videos, how to's and gear reviews.
www.youtube.com/freediveryoubuur
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Hi Youbuur,
Great channel, but I think the 3 big breaths before hold started me hyperventilating.
I'm a newbie and trying the 3 big breaths dry static I totally lost my contractions, they started really late and harsh, well after half way through the breath holds.
My buddy was getting a metallic taste in her mouth and also no/late contraction using this method. As far as I know these are signs of hyperventilation.
Mostly we tried this dry static but a few times diving too and I started thinking "Hang on, if I don't have any contractions, when is it time to come back up again? And if the contractions only come late, will I make it back to the surface?"
Before trying this 3-breath technique I was just taking a big breath and diving, coming back up when the pressure in my chest told me it was time to breathe. I've now gone back to this method with a slight purge before last breath and it feels a whole lot safer than the 3-breath one. My contractions dry static kick in before I'm half way through the breath hold.
I'm just a newbie so take this for what it's worth, but after trying this technique I'm pretty sure I was hyperventilating and potentially loosing a good safety margin so I think there is the chance people could watch the video and starting hyperventilating and perhaps potentially make their diving more dangerous because you say that with this technique there is little or no risk of overbreathing. I really don't agree with that, I think there is a very real risk of overbreathing.
Great channel, but I think the 3 big breaths before hold started me hyperventilating.
I'm a newbie and trying the 3 big breaths dry static I totally lost my contractions, they started really late and harsh, well after half way through the breath holds.
My buddy was getting a metallic taste in her mouth and also no/late contraction using this method. As far as I know these are signs of hyperventilation.
Mostly we tried this dry static but a few times diving too and I started thinking "Hang on, if I don't have any contractions, when is it time to come back up again? And if the contractions only come late, will I make it back to the surface?"
Before trying this 3-breath technique I was just taking a big breath and diving, coming back up when the pressure in my chest told me it was time to breathe. I've now gone back to this method with a slight purge before last breath and it feels a whole lot safer than the 3-breath one. My contractions dry static kick in before I'm half way through the breath hold.
I'm just a newbie so take this for what it's worth, but after trying this technique I'm pretty sure I was hyperventilating and potentially loosing a good safety margin so I think there is the chance people could watch the video and starting hyperventilating and perhaps potentially make their diving more dangerous because you say that with this technique there is little or no risk of overbreathing. I really don't agree with that, I think there is a very real risk of overbreathing.
Great feedback mr Jomac. I agree for beginners it is very difficult to breath consciously and NOT be hyperventilating.
I think the benefit of 'breath-up' is the tuning of the brain by concentrating on an internal rhythm that is slow, like breathing.
So for newbe's it would be better to have them only breath smoothly from the diaphragm, without their conscious direction, and have them concentrating on observing the air flowing in and out.
Of cause they'll need to learn to do this by first learning how to breath from the diaphragm only and smoothly. Then let go of directing this, and only start observing (without judging) the smooth diaphragm breathing automatically. Eventually you'll learn to really tune your brain fast, within just 1-3 slow breaths. This is great because your divebuddy does not need to wait for ages, or fear interrupting you - taking your out your hard to reach concentration.
Like I've said before, I think the term "Breath up" is a poor word choice. To me it is from the days of hyperventilation for records.
For me it's a mix of: bodily and mental relaxation, concentration, hypnotism , and self suggestion. Pre Apnea Centering might be better.
Suggestions are welcome
for beginners it is very difficult to breath consciously and NOT be hyperventilating.I think the benefit of 'breath-up' is the tuning of the brain by concentrating on an internal rhythm that is slow, like breathing.
So for newbe's it would be better to have them only breath smoothly from the diaphragm, without their conscious direction, and have them concentrating on observing the air flowing in and out.
Of cause they'll need to learn to do this by first learning how to breath from the diaphragm only and smoothly. Then let go of directing this, and only start observing (without judging) the smooth diaphragm breathing automatically. Eventually you'll learn to really tune your brain fast, within just 1-3 slow breaths. This is great because your divebuddy does not need to wait for ages, or fear interrupting you - taking your out your hard to reach concentration.
Like I've said before, I think the term "Breath up" is a poor word choice. To me it is from the days of hyperventilation for records.
For me it's a mix of: bodily and mental relaxation, concentration, hypnotism , and self suggestion. Pre Apnea Centering might be better.
Suggestions are welcome
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