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Frontal bone protection ;)

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Jan 25, 2004

I dive in COLD Norway where the waters are aprox. 4 degrees celsius during the coldest months :duh !

Therefor we need suits with goood face protection. So far only Spora Sub Diablo has satisfyed our needs. See attached picture, sporasub is the black suit, the green suit is not so good for us since we will suffer tremendus pain in the frontal bone :waterwork

A "cold water hood" is not good either, its to tight!

Have anyone tryed/seen other suits with good face protection?

Best regards


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Thanks for your digging ;)

But as you could see from the Spora Sub picture, there is no need for a ice cap! The suit have a so small opening around the face that almost everything is covered. I've dived with that suit 2-3 hours in water holder 4 degrees celsius.

So i just wonder if there are any other brands than spora sub producing suits with small opening in the face area!

Best regards
In 4C water I last for 10 minutes without my wetsuit....

No face protector either...nice to feel the water flowing over your body...

Eric Fattah
BC, Canada
jcd, i think you'll find the technical term for this condition is "ice cream headache" :D

the hood of my wetsuits (Picasso) come down to the top of my mask. even on the rare occasions i use goggles in 5-6C i still don't get icecream headaches. not sure why?... maybe i've just gotten used to it, or i expose myself to the water gradually. head down for a few seconds, head up, head down for a bit longer etc.

a friend of mine has altered one of his suit by glueing a crescent shaped piece of neoprene to the forehead, so that it covers the forehead... worth a try if you have some spare neoprene. the suit may look a little odd... but that may the price you pay for not having ice cream headaches.

try the gradual exposure first...
Originally posted by efattah
In 4C water I last for 10 minutes without my wetsuit....

No face protector either...nice to feel the water flowing over your body...

Eric Fattah
BC, Canada

Coming from a more temperate climate, I gotta say "You're crazy!" :D

I'm so spoiled, I still get cold in Hawaiian waters with my 3-mil Picasso :( You can imagine my shock coming to dive up here in NorCal. :head
The Henderson ice cap covers all bases for me. It fits very well under my Super-Comp wetsuit.

As far as other suits go, my Picasso comes down further on my forehead than my Esclapez or my Cressi.

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I have a Picasso and hve been very happy with it. I have a reasonably fat head and it covers lower face and upper extremely well. Mine is a 3mm farmer john and during early novermber I did some alpine lake freediving just as the ice was covering up the lake and had no problems with 'ice cream headache' sympotoms. I was guessing the H2O temp to be around the mid to high 30's and was able to stay in the water for just over 1 hour; and when I did get out it was more because it got dark, granted I was not the warmest I've ever been....not too bad for a 3mm and me. I am looking at getting a thick suit for early spring, late fall diving and would definitley buy another Picasso.

If you have any Q's about them, Roger at www.picassoamerica.com is a great resource as he helped me with my choice. I also believe deepblue has a large line and with good prices...... I have NOT used any other brand so I have nothing to compare it with. I'd take Jon and unirdna's opinion into though as looking by their pics and video do quite a bit of the cold cold stuff.

Well anyway, good luck at finding what is right for you.

Hey Jacob,

I have just received my new suits from Elios and can say that the finish on these suits is awesome. Even down to a proper place on the hood to fit your chin. I have never been able to wear any of my hoods over my chin as it slips off, but with this suit the problem is resolved.

I am sure they will be able to tailor a suit exactly to your specifications.

I think you are all completely out of your minds, except for Eric Fattah.

Paul Kotik
Florida , USA

I think you are all completely out of your minds, except for Eric Fattah.

Paul Kotik
Florida , USA
We are ALL crazy. Some just crazier than others.


Crazier than thou..

Jon what ml suit do you have on? I am in Pa and looking for a suit. I found a 3 ml Oneal at Sam's for 35$ thought about buying it. Do you have any suggestions for a freshwater gun and salt water for in Pennsylvania? Can see pretty far -20-30'.

You guys are crazy! I thought I waas crazy hunting coyotes at midnight with temp -10F?
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