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great white shark in La Jolla

Discussion in 'USA/Canada' started by freediver7, Sep 15, 2005.

  1. freediver7

    freediver7 New Member

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    The seals at La Jolla children’s pool have finely attracted a mid sized white shark. I get reports of a 15 to 17 ft great white shark in La Jolla every other day. He buzzes free divers, steals tuna from fishermen, he cruses the inside and outside of the kelp forest, and he likes to eat seals. He is acting just like white sharks from Isla Guadalupe.
    Well we finally have our shark. I predict a local shark attack on a human within two years, because of the dumb seals.

    I heard these reports last night. Two free divers were buzzed in the kelp hospital point, the got out of the water. A large white was munching hooked yellow tail from the charter boats on the outer edge of the La Jolla Kelp, a mid sized seal bit was bobbing in the kelp.
    I am used to diving with man-eaters, (Ano Nuevo, point Reyes, Samona…..) no problem, but this one bothers me.
    Be careful out there.
     
  2. feign

    feign Well-Known Member

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    Ano Nuevo? I thought this was a big no-no for divers....brave soul.

    You mentioned freedivers buzzed in the kelp? Do whites move into the kelp. I watched one documentary that suggested they do this more than previously thought.

    Lee
     
  3. freediver7

    freediver7 New Member

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    I thought whites didn't like kelp eather.

    I was a bad boy diving at Ano Nuevo but the abs were plentiful in the 1980's. When diving in sharky waters, I try to stay shallow (under 10 ft) or in the kelp. I don't know if that is going to work with this shark.
     
  4. feign

    feign Well-Known Member

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    Good luck and safe diving to you guys in that area. Anyone use a shark shield down there. I know some of the guys in No Cal use them now, after the passing on R. Fry. He was only in 15 ft of water diving for abalone. Take care,

    Lee
     
  5. freediver7

    freediver7 New Member

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    Thanks,
    I rather depend on skill and experience to avoid Mr. White.
     
  6. Spaniard

    Spaniard Cider tester

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    La Jolla? Isn't that where Robert Pamperin got taken by a GWS whilst abalone diving a few years ago?
     
  7. Nikoman

    Nikoman New Member

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    Guys let us not forget we are playing in their turf. I did lots of diving in Guadalupe for a documentary on the white shark (By the way Hollywood and mass medias are the reason we call them "Great" and gave them the man-eater nickname). Let say you are in the middle of Africa camping and know lions are around , you pay attention. Same thing with white shark,if you hunt and know they are around you know you are taking risks, if you are just freediving just PAY attention and exit the waters. Once again most of the shark attack are from tigers and bulls not whites. Abs diver in Isla de Guadalupe have been diving with white sharks for years and never got attacked,got buzzed like I did but never attacked. Finally if you are not comfortable with having white sharks around, read books on the subject (please stay away from anything from Peter Benchley!!!) watch documentary that are not using the "Jaws approach",learn about them, as knowledge is the best weapon against fear. It is all about facing ones fears,aren't we as Freedivers the best types of individuals to deal with fears as the essence of the discipline is based on that principle.
     
  8. Nikoman

    Nikoman New Member

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    I forgot one last point...an important. Let's also take responsibility of our acts as we live in a society where liability dodging is the main sport. We know we all take risks the minute we set foot in the Ocean. That is probably why we all like it somewhat...it make us feel very much alive more than that nine to fiver job...but that is another debate. Cheers,

    nico
     
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  9. bluecape

    bluecape Well-Known Member

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    Great Whites and Kelp. mmm. Thats a debate which makes many capetown divers a little uneasy. Many hours are spent spearfishing in the Kelp forests, and relative shallows, in the belief that the whites will follow the 'channels' between the kelp.
    Still no clear answer, but some big great whites have been seen off fishhoek beach in 2 meters of water, with bellies dragging on the bottom, and I know a spearo who jumped off a ledge at Capepoint ( Rooikrans) into the kelp, and virtually landed on the back of a big great white...he said he didnt know who got the biggest fright, him or the shark??
     
  10. Tahoe Diver

    Tahoe Diver New Member

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    Regardnig learning more about white sharks in order to dispell rumors, etc., check out sharkdivingunlimited.com. This is Mike Rutzen's website. He's f**cking nuts, but he's really beginning to show how much we don't know about the white shark.

    Safe diving!

    - Tahoe Diver
     
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  11. bluecape

    bluecape Well-Known Member

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    With all due respect to Mike, his diving with GW's has taken place in conditions that have been hand selected to be near perfect, days that come around once in a blue moon.
    Chatting to the GW operators, and looking at pattern of attacks etc etc, most people will agree that the only predictable thing about a GW is that it is totally un-predictable.

    people watch, film, note and eventually say that this and that is what the GW does or does'nt do, the only problem is, nobody tells the GW, and he just changes all the rules> :hmm

    Dive with max caution, and then some, and if there may be a white in the area, do'nt expect anything, or try to predict anything, ever.

    Jeff
     
  12. Tahoe Diver

    Tahoe Diver New Member

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    In an interview, Mike Rutzen said that it took nearly eight months before the perfect first day came along to get into the water, unshielded, with the GWS.

    He also stresses that unpredictability is the only predictable thing with the GWS, but at least he's breaking ground. I remember seeing footage many years ago with another diver standing off with a GWS. The footage was amazing and it goes to what Mike Rutzen also said about standing your ground with a passing GWS, in order to not resemble its natural prey as much. I have no idea what my first response would be after seeing (or feeling) a GWS, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be to stand my ground. It's an interesting theory and one that I'm sure science will delve into in the future.

    Until then, we have to simply respect that we dive in foreign territory and that sometimes the natives will try to eat us.

    - Brandon Grundy
     
  13. freediver7

    freediver7 New Member

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    Nicely phrased Nico. "Let us not forget we are playing in their turf."
    Lets keep the risks in perspective. Sharks are only one of the many risks we encounter while free diving, getting run over by boats, submarines, black out, getting tangled in the float line,....

    I am not too concerned about the shark I can see it’s the one I can’t see that I worry about. I don't know if the two free divers were in the thick of the kelp or if they are on the edge. I heard it from a buddy who was diving the same day and area.
     
  14. IB Boyd

    IB Boyd New Member

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    This is some pretty scary stuff, for La Jolla. Shark rumors do crop up from time to time, but it is pretty unusual to have this many sightings in a short time period, in our neck of the woods. The thing that makes this a bit spooky is the water conditions. The water here does not have 50 foot plus clarity, like out at Guadalupe. La Jolla divers spend a lot of time creeping along the edge of the kelp hunting WSB. Vis in La Jolla is ussualy about fifteen feet, give or take five foot. If they decide to give us a curiosity bite, we wont even see it coming. Anybody have a shark shield they want to sell?
     
  15. Shadowkiller

    Shadowkiller Digital Hunter

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    Its always nice to see nature returning to its past glories. :)
     
  16. Spinal Tap

    Spinal Tap New Member

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    I'm going out and gittin' me a powerhead. I'm gonna make that summbitch a past glory when this swell lays down. :duh
     
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  17. Shadowkiller

    Shadowkiller Digital Hunter

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    And theres the reason why even the more reasonable green groups want spearos banned from the water... talk about knee jerk reaction!

    If youre really that scared of a little shark, stay at home and barricade yourself in... rofl
     
  18. miles

    miles BORN WILD!!! Supporter

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    Hiya

    I'm scared!!!! Well, actually not true,.............more like TERRIFIED!!!!!

    I've heard this waaaay to much: "Sharks are our friends.........they mean us no harm........they're simply mis-understood..........etc,etc,etc" Most sharks are quite harmless, but we're talking about Carcharodon carcharias, the White Shark, or as most people refer to it, the GREAT WHITE SHARK. They ARE brutal killing machines. They've evolved over the centuries to become one of the most AWESOME aquatic predators. Besides, GWS are KNOWN man eaters.

    So PLEASE don't lull others into a false sense of security.

    Regards
    miles
     
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  19. Jee

    Jee New Member

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    About Peter Benchley: there was a spot in National Geographic Channel, that after his story, after years, he learnt a lot about GWS and sharks. Now he beleives, that humans are more danger to shark than otherwise )which actually is true, I think also). Now he respects GWS, and feel sorry for that much damage was done to the reputation of sharks )all sharks, not only GWS) because of Jaws.

    Of course sharks could be dangerous, even fatal for us, but in most cases, I beleive they are not. This is also true for GWS, I think (I have no experiences diving with sharks - at least I don't know about :) )

    Jee
     
  20. sdspearo

    sdspearo New Member

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    just a thought: MABEY hell eat all of the seals and leave. so the childrens pool would be open again and we wouldnt have to worrie about the gws. just a :friday thought