ok guys I'm still sorta new to this but I'm learning fast, but one thing i cant figure our is gun sizes! why don't they come up with a standard way of measuring a gun? the most realistic measurement would be from muzzle to the base of the gun where it touches your hip or chest when loading! I can convert cm=inches and inches=cm but there isnt a standard way to figure out how long a gun is when looking at them on web sites, they say it is a 110cm gun, but is it? I was in a shop today and they told me that the length of the "gun" 110 is usually the length of the shaft or the length of shaft that gun can handle. who gives a crap! I need to know how long the gun is from the muzzle or bands to the base since i chest load and need to know if i can reach the bands or not. I can have a shaft where the tip is just out side the muzzle or have it set up like my JBL where there is a foot of shaft out of the muzzle then the tip. this makes selection of a gun very difficult and just adds one more confusing step. whats the deal!