hard time trying to recover myself :(

[vali]

It has been three years from my 3* certification. Three years without training at all and with heavy smoke and bad nutrition. I woke up one day and look in the mirror and the mirror broke! 103kg at 170cm. This are the facts and the motives are of no importance...
Than one day me and my friends, who started the Romanian Free diving movement, decided that an official competition is the key to make us known in the branch. Since we decided to do the first "ROMANIAN FREEDIVING CHALLENGE - POOL OPEN", I saw a good opportunity to start training again and loose that damn cigarette once and for all.
When I first go to the pool after all this years, I did manage to DYN 40m [my PB was 65m]. From 7 attempt to do 50m, only 3 was successful. In STA I didn't manage to pass 1,30 min [my PB was 3,20 min].
After three months of regime and one month of training and not smoking, I'm now at 93kg and I did yesterday a full 3,07 min in STA. I can only go at the pool three times a week for max 2 hours each.
My problem here is the DYN. I tried many types of swimming. With bi-fins I can't do even 50m . With mono-fin I can do 50 and yesterday I managed to turn and did 60m.
I want to get to the 50m without the urge to breath because I have a big problem with contraction. In STA I can live with contractions, but in DYN I cannot.
I tried different approach: streamlined [with many muscle group working and draining O2]; slow swim with more knees bending; slow swim with more hips movement ... The better choice was, I guess, the relaxed swim with 2 strong kicks and one soft kick while gliding , and than again and so on. I didn't manage to turn at 50, but in stead I did a little 10 seconds STA there. That means it was for the first time I've managed to reach the 50m being quite calm.
I-m not preparing for the Challenge in 5-th of april because I know that I cannot win anything but experience, but I really need to manage to do at least my PB in DYN.
My current problem is how to overcome the contractions and learn to make them my allies in stead of my enemies. [I hate dry static (]
the only things I do now for that is lot of STA and DYN on residual. [All training is with my 3* free-diver buddy.]
In the remaining one month I will lose another 4 or 5 kg of my weight and perhaps the mono technique will improve as well.
Any tips and tricks for me will be more than welcomed and for that I thanks you ... I'm trying to be a free-diver again here ...

 

[Apneaddict]

Welcome back!

I'm the opposite. I hate contractions in static and hardly notice them in dynamic.

I concentrate on technique / form and counting kicks and don't have the mental capacity to also think about contractions.

Do a good breathe-up beforehand and really relax and slow your heart rate before you start.

You can also try a :10 sec hang after 25m before returning back again in training.

I'm confident that you easily have 75m in you with your current breath hold and technique.

After 50m, just focus on keeping good technique, counting kicks and don't stop until the next wall!

Voila! PB!

 

[vali]

Thank you very much Apneaddict
I forgot to mention that I practice in a 50m pool and I also forgot to ask you of some fact that I discovered, for which the opinions are contradictories: I always have the better results in DYN and in STA at the end of my practice, when I'm supposed to be tired...but no! the best DYN and STA are for me at the end of my 2 hours training program; and a relaxed DYN after a good STA!!!
how can it be?

 

[MarcinB]

It's because you are now limited by CO2 tolerance. After long warm up contractions and the urge to breath come later and this is why you can swim/hold longer without strong discomfort. However, this approach is not recommended for dynamic when you are getting close to your limits because it delays the initiation of diving response and therefore increases oxygen consumption.

 

[vali]

Thank you MarcinB!
Perhaps I must do the tables after all ...
my mono is the one in the picture bellow [although I don't think that, at my level, this can be of some importance]

 

[vali]

Yesterday i did some dry CO2 an O2 table. I installed the UNAEROBIC on my phone. The CO2 was easy, but the O2 was very hard and I didn't manage to finalize it. I did however 3:44. I cannot say that this is a good result and I think that my pool STA of 3:20 obtained 3 years ago is better than this 3:44 dry. But definitly this 3:44 dry is better than my actual best of 3:07.
What do you think? [and again it looks like the first attempts are worst and the last are better...even in dry STA]

 

[MarcinB]

It depends on a person. For some people static in a pool is easier, other ones get better results dry. It to a large extent depends on what you are used to. I train static only dry and wet static is much more difficult to me, I find it hard to relax completely. Try to repeat it in the pool but at the beginning not the end of your training. First do three or four warm up statics and then go for max. It's normal in static that the first attempt is the shortest/most difficult one. It's the warm up effect I mentioned before. Usually the holds get easier up to the fourth or fifth one.

 

[vali]

I did 3 STA for warming-up and 2 max attempt after that. Was a disaster.
- First warm-up =2min
- Second warm-up = 2min
- Third warm-up = 2,30min
max attempt = 2,45 min
BUT...
...after that STA, which lasted in total around 30min of our time in the pool, the DYN worked out quite easy!
I mean all of my attempt to do 50m was not only successfully but very relaxed...[I did 4 of them]

 

[vali]

Last time i had to stop my training due to a strong pain in my chest. What was hapenned: i did 50m in DYN and when i reached the pool wall, i stood in a 10 second STA without surfacing in between. I was quite happy at the time but my happines was melted by a sharp pain in my plexux. In short time, the pain faded but not gone. I remember that in the ten sec static, the contractions was one per second. Is normal this sharp pain?

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[MarcinB]

When I started to train DNF, I often had similar pain after doing 50m. The problem solved on its own after several weeks. I think it was related to tension in the chest and poor CO2 tolerance. However, in my case the pain was always gone few seconds after surfacing.