Herbert Nitsch TEDx Vienna

[kevtron]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INqG2YtgU08]YouTube - ‪TEDxVienna - Herbert Nitsch - Breathless‬‏[/ame]

Very interesting video. I didn't realize what all he did on those crazy No Limits dives.

Also, at about 11 minutes, he mentions his equalization technique which 'no one else is using'. Anyone know about this?

 

[Simos]

Herbert basically literally exhales air once submerged into an empty plastic coke bottle (has to be coke) and then uses the air from the bottle to equalise. Obviously this wouldn't be allowed in aida disciplines but no-limits is not really a discipline by anyone's books so I guess you can do whatever feels acceptable. I think the spirit is that it's still diving on 'one breath of air'.

I think if anyone is willing to dive 200m+, getting a bit of help from a coke bottle is no big deal

unfortunately not a new technique you can use lol but there were guys that dove to 170m+ with no EQ assistance...
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[Simos]

Actually I might correct myself - I think no-limits is an Aida discipline. So must be allowed by the rules...
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[Simos]

Ok I looked it up on AIDA website for those interested - as originally thought no-limits is not a competition discipline:

NLT (No limits)

open water discipline but not a competition discipline!
only for record attempts
in this discipline there are few rules. Almost all types of equipment are allowed except that the diver may not use tanks for breathing during the dive
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[kevtron]

Well he uses the coke bottle to let him get the air to be able to equalize. But it seemed to me that that wasn't the actually equalization technique; just the way that he was able to get air when his lungs would have compressed to such an extent that it'd be impossible to get air for equalization.

 

[Simos]

Well the lungs are compressed, the air is coming from the "bottle" lol the technique is called the coke-bottle-fill
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[Simos]

By the way, if you want to try and find out more about herbert's "coke bottle", it's called EQEX
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[kevtron]

hmm.. I guess that makes sense. It's just not the way that I understood it from the video. Very creative on his part though.

 

[Simos]

I've watched the video a few weeks ago so don't remember what he says, I remember joking about the coke bottle bit... Don't get me wrong, I'm not taking away anything from the greatness of the dive, including the EQEX - the simplest solutions are often the best!

By the way, I don't think it's not so much that it would be impossible for someone to dive to 200m+ without any equalisation aids (obviously still really hard though) but it's also about being able to do it at the speed of descent required to avoid DCS.... Also, just because he used the EQEX for equalisation doesn't mean that his lungs, chest etc don't have to be incredibly flexible..
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[efattah]

Someone good at the mouthfill can easily go way over 200m without the EQEX. But the EQEX would make it easier. For 300m the EQEX may be required, otherwise wet equalizing would need to be used.

 

[fcallagy]

Musimu went to 209 and practices wet equalisation as did Loic (RIP) as far as I can remember but could be wrong.

 

[efattah]

Musimu used wet equalizing but Loic did dry frenzel with lots of stretching & flexibility work.

 

[fcallagy]

Thanks Eric knew someone would know for sure.