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Humpbacks Rock! The Germ Of An Idea

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tmaas

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What if you could improve your freediving performance by 5% with a gear modification? Yesterday, Chip Bissell and I tested the drag of the Freediver’s Recovery Vest (yes, we changed the name.) In order to mitigate the increased drag of the back-mounted inflation unit, I fashioned a turtle shell to cover the apparatus. See (http://www.oceanicss.com/Graphics/inflation/turtle.htm )

Chip and I each made 20 dives to 50 feet. We made 10 with the vest and 10 without and we followed the exact path each dive. Our idea was that the time it took to complete the circuit would be a good surrogate for drag—provided, however, that we kicked consistently on every dive. We were very careful here and we think that our results are accurate (spreadsheet results: http://www.oceanicss.com/Graphics/inflation/shell_test_results.htm )

We were astounded to find that when we used the vest we moved 7% faster through the water column than without it. We made the average circuit 3 seconds faster with the vest!
These results were unexpected but on reflection make some sense. Adding the humpback makes us more dolphin-like in shape. In addition, because most freedivers look forward and dive face-first (excluding record attempts where the diver descends head first), there must be significant hydrodynamic drag caused by the head. This is similar to the dynamics of an aircraft wing that stalls without a smooth laminar flow of air across its surface. When I watched Chip, I could see that the back of his head fared neatly into the hump, thus minimizing turbulent flow behind the head.

As scientists, we know the importance of independent confirmation of our results. Advisory Board member David Sipperly will work with the University of Rhode Island to resurrect a similar drag-testing protocol the university used to assess BC drag. The implications are profound. By a simple gear change, we might be able to increase our efficiency. Actually, when you look at bicycler helmets, they have a duck-tail fairing. We might find that the addition of a simple flap of rubber extending off the hood to fare into the back might enhance the hump. Maybe, this is all we need? For the vest, now that we know there is value to the hump shape, we will experiment with different shapes to come up with the optimal shape.

Terry Maas
 
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First of all: wow, Terry Maas! Heard a lot about you from "oceanic" friends, it's a honor to discuss with you.
Now to the point: do I understand that the problem you're working out with the vest is the drag and hassle of water through the back neck, right? So what could be the issues in the spearfishing mode, when you continuously turn your head, bend your shoulders, get upside down et cetera? Do you think we spearos can use the vest comfortably?
 
Do you think we spearos can use the vest comfortably?

Spaghetti,
One of the things we tested was the "feel" of the vest. Out of the water, it weighs 9 pounds, but it's neutral in the water. You know it's on, but soon forget its there. No matter how you turn your head, we think that just having it tipped back a bit will help. One reason for more testing! We were just surprised that there was not increased drag.

Terry
 
Welcome to db Mr Mass :)
Like my friend spaghetti I am pleased to see you post on our community.
Interesting post especially as I recently brought a weight vest. I really disliked the bulge the weights formed on my back while trying it on! However it is out of season to dive where I live so I have not tryed it out yet. The Ormer vest in question is capable of storing 4kg of lead shot between the shoulders, this forms quite a bulge. It will be interesting to see if this has any effect?
 
That's great news, Terry! Hope to see the vest on the market soon!
 
Hi Terry,
Also welcome to db and delighted to see the name just a thought, on the motorbikes gps, nearly all the riders have a spoiler/humpback built in on their leathers for aerodynamics and i presume this also will apply to hydrodymaics
 
sorry that i don't add much to the discussion but i justa had to say Welcome Terry. Respect for someone that has done so much for the sport!

Fernando
 
Welcome to DB Terry its a honour to have a diver of your stature part of our family :)
If the shell makes the a diver more airodynamic would adding 2 fins running at a angle over the shell from front to back of the shell not make it more so?
 
Very interesting data. For the spearos: does the hump trap air/produce bubbles on the way down? It looks to be very low profile, good for getting into small spaces. It also appears not to have any "dead corners" where kelp etc may get snagged up.

! wonder if a weight system could/should be integrated into it??

Great work guys.
 
I think a tour to a number of exotic places testing and showing how the device works is in order :) I am willing to help you out with this testing in Cape Town and other countries (expensive paid of course (;).

A video of the device working would be great.

In SA our local distributors of gear including spearing and free diving clubs I am sure would be very interested to know more.
 
Thank you all for your kind words. Here are a few answers:
1. Fins on the hump might be a good idea. I have ordered a full-sized mannequin and will outfit it as a freediver, complete with wetsuit, weights,fins and the Freediver’s Recovery Vest. We will try various combinations of pod (hump) forms and streamlining hood extensions. Right now, we are planning on using a scale and submerging the mannequin in a constant current. Differences in scale readings from the control (just the diver without the vest or hood extension) should give us a good idea of relative drag. I’ll be sure to document all with pictures and scale readings for your review.
2. Now the pod does produce bubbles, but we are sure we can make them disappear by cutting longitudinal vents in the pod and providing venting holes in the vest.
 
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