Maybe this will work in Lake Michigan, but around here anchored to a sunken boat... Not gunna happen. My spoons did nothing, and I didnt want to use the baits okamotoa was talking about because those are like food almost, and I would feel bad about baiting in an animal like that to kill it. Oh well, it was worth a shot. Oh yea, and one of the dumb*$$es I took when my Eardrum exploded went right through the thing. I said "wheres my flasher" "I dont know." me-"you swam through it, didnt you. Youre lucky your not stuck on the bottom drowning." him "No fleshy, its not on me!" Sure enough, whole thing attached to his fin. rofl