I'm [i]not[/i] trying to start a fight . . .

[Oldsarge]

I merely report what I read:

Year of global cooling - - The Washington Times, America's Newspaper


Let the name-calling begin.

 

[Spaniard]

We haven't had a white xmas in the UK for ages....The daffodils in my garden are starting to appear......WTF? Oh well i'll have another cider.:friday

 

[podge]

We haven't had a white xmas in the UK for ages....The daffodils in my garden are starting to appear......WTF? Oh well i'll have another cider.:friday

You get it down you son.:friday
Drinking all that cider will produce all sorts of green house gases you know!rofl
So I put global warming right at your feet.
Get on the gin and tonic mate you can’t beat a bit of Bombay Sapphire.:friday:friday

 

[Spaniard]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh there he is......Scientist extraordinaire, Mr Podge. Cider is less air miles mate, that Gin has come all the way from India...rofl

 

[podge]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh there he is......Scientist extraordinaire, Mr Podge. Cider is less air miles mate, that Gin has come all the way from India...rofl

That word that you said, you know the one.roflrofl

 

[wet]

AFAIK (speaking generally)

Earth has warmed over the past few years
and has a very thick atmosphere with much buffering capacity

Mars has warmed over the past few years
and has a very thin atmosphere with little buffering capacity

The Sun's radiation hitting Earth and Mars increased over the past few years by a small percent

During the last Ice Age, the (now termed) British Isles were under thick ice and snow, while the Himalayas and Siberia had (relatively) very little ice and snow.
Local and regional climate can vary from global climate average, depending on geography, hydrology, etc.

Fossil fuels: The more we burn, the less our descendants breathe, until the excess atmospheric CO2 is locked up chemically in plant tissues or some other system.

Plants can't create oxygen, they convert CO2 to O2 and plant tissue using solar energy to make and break bonds. Plants mostly photosynthesize during sunlit conditions in warm wet climates, but all plants respire (exhale CO2 like animals) 24 hours a day, every day.

 

[ocean_314]

That’s what all the scientists are saying that are not trying to or making money off of the mombo jumbo of global warming.
And Greenpeace is all about making money, using the media to rack in the $$$$$ from all those arm chair environmentalists, anything for a buck. Big Big money, smart very smart businessmen running that organization. To believe anything Greenpeace says is equal to believing in little green men.

 

[Pastor]

One could also argue that it would cost businesses a mega fortune to clean up their act and would see shareholders reaping hugely reduced profits. So there is always the chance that the other half of the experts are being paid to come up with false evidence to provide a counter argument to the environmentalists in an effort to keep profits up. Now does anyone with a brain really feels that it's OK to pump out tons of CO2 and other shite out into the atmosphere? Both sides of the argument are driven by profit but remember that one side is doing some harm to the earth.

 

[octpora]

it's OK to pump out tons of CO2 and other shite out into the atmosphere.

roflroflrofl All day long! how did you know? All from the spicy calmari for breakfast.

hypocrisy and denial from all those farging bastages. but not from me.

 

[John P]

To believe anything Greenpeace says is equal to believing in little green men.

That's a pretty bold statement. Do you have any real evidence to back that up?

I guess in any large organisation there is likley to be some level of corruption - some people using the charity to line their own pockets.

To suggest the whole organisation is setup just to make money seems to be a little exteme though.


John.

 

[Erik]

Let the name-calling begin.

Apparently has begun.

 

[ocean_314]

John P just look at the way Greenpeace operates. First they arrange media coverage. Then they show up in their boats or with their protesters and do their thing for the cameras. When the cameras are gone Greenpeace is gone.
Instead of doing the science and getting the facts straight or getting any facts Greenpeace sues. The courts work faster then the scientists and thousands are put out of work, and then the science comes in and shows that Greenpeace was completely wrong. But Greenpeace doesn’t care, science, truth and honesty would put them out of business.
Examples are the Stellar Seals in Alaska in the 90's. The spotted owl on the west coast of the US. The "wild steelhead and salmon" genetic differences on the west coast of the US. These examples are off the top of my head, I am sure that there are thousands more. Greenpeace destroyed lots of people with their lawsuits damn the science and the truth. But who cares if these people starve they are not the big city ignorant arm chair environmentalists which are their revenue source.

 

[Pastor]

Apparently has begun.

Well the expression "Give em enough rope" may well apply here

rofl

Keep it clean please

 

[BennyB]

Hey look over there, it's a dead horse. Let's go kick it. No wait, what do we do to dead horses again?

Please people i'm sick of being on this not-so-merry go round. Agree to disagree and let it go.

 

[ocean_314]

What is doing harm to this earth are too many people. Any time a population of any living creatures over populates they destroy their environment before their population crashes. What makes everyone think that humans are any different then other creatures?
And to add more gloom to the doom my wife is in medical research and the medical technology that is on the way, no one is going to die anymore. Ready for 10 billion people on this earth

 

[podge]

Hey look over there, it's a dead horse. Let's go kick it. No wait, what do we do to dead horses again?


Turn um into kebabs or glue.rofl
I do love it on here as the lovely people are always up for a laugh.

 

[Spaniard]

Half the fun here is agreeing not to agree, in the nicest possible of course.... We will sit back and enjoy hearing all the 'experts' telling us both sides of the proverbial coin and form orderly queues behind whoever we like. In the meantime Mother Nature will carry on regardless until we all get wiped out or someone works it all out and we will live forever and ever happily ever after. I'm off to the pub now to 'discuss' this further...............

 

[Pastor]

So what's the best cure for Verrucas then? I reckon a soldering iron and burn the buggers out is the way to go. But then all that biting hard objects is bad for your teeth! It's a dilemma

 

[Fondueset]

If it says 'Washington Times' ...

The problem is that Global Warming has become synonymous for any sort of environmental concern. This is a propoganda tactic on the part of corporate interests - aka our current government (see Milton Freidman and Naomi Klein) because it simplifies the issue - giving them just one thing to discredit (see O.J. Simpson trial and 'the glove') - instead of a galaxy of individual issues. Environmental pollution has long been known and proven to cause all sorts of problems for human beings. By absorbing it into the less concrete issue of global warming it becomes debatable again.

 

[Oldsarge]

And to add fuel to the fire (while avoiding warming, you understand)

RIA Novosti - Opinion & analysis - A cold spell soon to replace global warming

heh, heh, heh . . .