Among the political issues that we deal with as an association (Underwater activities clubs) is the fact that we apneists have no real association to the IOC (International Olympic Commitee) ever since the only underwater activity organization recognized by the IOC is CMAS. CMAS however has shown mediocre interest in apnea, henceforth the creation of all other organizations... so my question arises... will AIDA ever seek or is seeking the approval of the IOC as the leading apnea organization and are they fighting to get apnea recognized as a separate sport?
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Is AIDA trying to get recognition for Apnea in the eyes of the IOC?
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Not if there will be lots of blackouts and sambas.JPPLAY said:
I think what will matter at the end is politics, pro and cons are just excuses.
I am not talking about making apnea an olympic sport... it's not about that... Im' talking about AIDA being the official representative of apnea in the eyes of the IOC... see? CMAS has the "underwater Activities" according to the IOC but CMAS doesn't pay much attention to apnea and hence AIDA SHOULD be the official representative and the only organization with valid rules for the sport because currently we have 2 sets of rules.. the normal AIDA ones that we always use and the CMAS one that is all about making trips around a square at 30 meters... you get my point...
So we need an official organization viewed as valid by the IOC which is the ultimate organization when it comes to sports.
So we need an official organization viewed as valid by the IOC which is the ultimate organization when it comes to sports.
jome said:
Thats why pro boxing is not allowed in my country.
Let's keep freediving in freediving whats the need to get so many eyes on the so called "sport".
I do not see freediving as a sport.
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I think it is not so much about getting attention. I am quite happy the way it is. Nevertheless, I would like us to be officially recognized as a sport. It would make life much easier in many respects.
MHO.
Veronika
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I am pretty sure that AIDA has a pretty full plate in all that they do, and I am sure that question has come up several times at meetings.
I do believe(and hope) that one day competitive freediving will be considered as a sport, but until then I think that we are on the right track.
Training programs are the most important thing for our sport. Teaching people proper techinques and safety and that we are not a bunch of crazies living on the edge all the time. Power is in the numbers.
I do believe(and hope) that one day competitive freediving will be considered as a sport, but until then I think that we are on the right track.
Training programs are the most important thing for our sport. Teaching people proper techinques and safety and that we are not a bunch of crazies living on the edge all the time. Power is in the numbers.
I agree with Absolute, I don't think the time is quite ripe yet for IOC recognition, although it should be getting close. But there are bigger priorities for the overworked few that make things happen in AIDA.
But here's one example why it would be cool.
-Going to competitions all over the world costs thousands of euros per year
-In basically any other sport, a world class athlete could go and apply for government grants, which would greatly help this situation
-Some world class divers in Finland (who have proven to be serious candidates for the top 3 spots every time they're in competition) have done this, but they keep getting refused because "freediving is not a sport". But they'll happily dump thousands to send a curling team out, or what ever happens to be on the olympic sports list, even though those teams don't have any chance at any kind of success.
-Thus those athletes have to skip a lot of good competitions, simply because they don't have the money to go there
I'm sure similar examples apply to other countries as well...
But like Absolute said, I'm sure if freediving keeps growing and growing, eventually it will be easier to plead our case to other governing bodies...And the only way that's going to happen is building a credible education system that pumps out hundreds of able divers each year. And IMO that should also be the priority in AIDA...
But here's one example why it would be cool.
-Going to competitions all over the world costs thousands of euros per year
-In basically any other sport, a world class athlete could go and apply for government grants, which would greatly help this situation
-Some world class divers in Finland (who have proven to be serious candidates for the top 3 spots every time they're in competition) have done this, but they keep getting refused because "freediving is not a sport". But they'll happily dump thousands to send a curling team out, or what ever happens to be on the olympic sports list, even though those teams don't have any chance at any kind of success.
-Thus those athletes have to skip a lot of good competitions, simply because they don't have the money to go there
I'm sure similar examples apply to other countries as well...
But like Absolute said, I'm sure if freediving keeps growing and growing, eventually it will be easier to plead our case to other governing bodies...And the only way that's going to happen is building a credible education system that pumps out hundreds of able divers each year. And IMO that should also be the priority in AIDA...
Well here in Venezuela we can get some sort of help from the government in order to pay for expenses, I think this all derives from Carlos breaking the records... but the thing is the following... Venezuela is usually not very present in sports globally... and now we have a world record discipline... that's why they support it however it's only for the national selection... all other athletes must cover their own expenses
A sport wishing to have Olympic status needs a massive spectator and athlete following. The IOC will consider applications by unrepresented sports for inclusion usually only after many years. Bejing has accepted long distance swimming for the first time (as an exhibition sport) but this does not mean it will become a regular event or even happen in London. Every games includes a few exhibition sports as a trial. It is probably 20 years premature to think Freediving will make the grade. However, look at Triathlon and you can see the kind of television appeal that Freediving needs to develop first. Exhibition dives, Documentaries, news articles, competitions etc all need to get regular air time in order to support any application to the IOC. While sports are being dropped and being replaced by new sports, it is important to establish the voice of Worldwide freediving. Back to the unified governing body arguments I think before Aida can assume to be the voice, and any rule changes would need to be written so the IOC can accept them as the absolute safest standard.
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hmm.
Yes, of course this idea is interesting.
LAND is 30% of the Planet... and there is maybe 100 different federations recognized by IOC.
...and WATER is 70%, and you maybe have 4-5 federations for the surface, but only one for the under-water world, recognized by IOC.
I guess there is PLENTY of room for one more federation for u/w activity.
I don't think The Olympic Games is ready for Apnea.
And I guess we are not ready for the Olympic... yet, that is.
/B
Yes, of course this idea is interesting.
LAND is 30% of the Planet... and there is maybe 100 different federations recognized by IOC.
...and WATER is 70%, and you maybe have 4-5 federations for the surface, but only one for the under-water world, recognized by IOC.
I guess there is PLENTY of room for one more federation for u/w activity.
I don't think The Olympic Games is ready for Apnea.
And I guess we are not ready for the Olympic... yet, that is.
/B
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