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Japan Spear Fishing - 日本 やり釣

sr503

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You had anyone hassle you yet? Ive been spearing on the sea of japan side when visiting family, police come by now and then and make sure your not abalone diving but dont care about pole spearing. Rules are real gray it seems.
Not really, just the snail/abalone guys in boats until they figured out I was just killing fish. Now that the hiramasa are in I have to pay more attention to boat traffic since I’m out deeper
 

sr503

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They sell guns at a lot of dive shops here in Japan, is there maybe a special license required like hunting with firearms has?
From my understanding you technically have to know and go with someone in the fishing coop. Which is why a lot of guys get away with it Okinawa shooting doggies. Even if you could shoot guns here without stipulations I still wouldn’t pay Japanese dive shop prices... absurd
 

Troek

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From my understanding you technically have to know and go with someone in the fishing coop. Which is why a lot of guys get away with it Okinawa shooting doggies. Even if you could shoot guns here without stipulations I still wouldn’t pay Japanese dive shop prices... absurd
Yeah, thats kind of what I’ve gathered as well. And yeah as far as prices, any hobby over here usually pulls a premium mark up. I havnt gone out any where this side yet, thinking of hitting up atami area soon. What part of kanagawa you at? I’m at Ebina.
 

sr503

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Yeah, thats kind of what I’ve gathered as well. And yeah as far as prices, any hobby over here usually pulls a premium mark up. I havnt gone out any where this side yet, thinking of hitting up atami area soon. What part of kanagawa you at? I’m at Ebina.
I’m down by Miura, and from what I’ve seen the last time I went diving the hiramasa are in
 

Troek

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Nice, haven't shot anything bigger than suzuki and big ishidai/kurodai yet, gona have to get out down that wAy when i get back to Kanagaw. Headed out north of kyoto on sea of japan side here in a week or so.
 

monchan

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They are ok to own, just not to use.
although I did see a video on youtube with a guy using a gun, he said in the video, in Japanese, that where he was, was ok??
Maybe uninhabited islands in okinawa, I don`t know. I used to own a gun, the wife searched all the rules. they said guns prohibited.
They sell a lot on Yahoo auction too. I have been stopped by the coast guard enough times, to not take the risk. Pretty hefty fine.
 

Troek

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They are ok to own, just not to use.
although I did see a video on youtube with a guy using a gun, he said in the video, in Japanese, that where he was, was ok??
Maybe uninhabited islands in okinawa, I don`t know. I used to own a gun, the wife searched all the rules. they said guns prohibited.
They sell a lot on Yahoo auction too. I have been stopped by the coast guard enough times, to not take the risk. Pretty hefty fine.
Yeah my attempts to get black and white, in writing regulations regarding any spearing of any kind have all been dead ends. The rules on the government website dont seem to actually matter. I had a buddy pole spearing in a prefecture the rules said was ok, police of some kind still made him leave, no fine or anything though.
 
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Interesting. Sounds like it may be legal (not illegal) but the authorities are pretending/assuming that it is not. Spearfishing is still a relatively new and unusual activity, it is possible that it has never been considered by the legislature, and perhaps never will be, being such a small, specialized activity.

Sometimes restrictions are covered by fisheries bylaws, rules and regulations, which tend to be updated more often.
 

monchan

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spearfishing used to be very common (I'm told) then they had a big scuba boom. then the people who decide these things banned it. guns are still out, and polespear are ok in some places. Where I live, the law is if you dont use a band its ok. You have to stab the fish more or less. But I have had the coast guard called on me a few times. they say bands are ok as long as you dont let go. If the polespear leaves your hand completely thats out. The laws over here are such a mess, the police dont even know them.
 

Troek

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spearfishing used to be very common (I'm told) then they had a big scuba boom. then the people who decide these things banned it. guns are still out, and polespear are ok in some places. Where I live, the law is if you dont use a band its ok. You have to stab the fish more or less. But I have had the coast guard called on me a few times. they say bands are ok as long as you dont let go. If the polespear leaves your hand completely thats out. The laws over here are such a mess, the police dont even know them.
Yeah, I’ve had law enforcment of some
kind called on me a number of times for various legal outdoor activities. I think if your outside the norm people just assume its illegal. I believe in Kanagawa where I live the “law” says you can pole spear but no goggles. The area I have speared the most in, Hyogo, spearing of any kind is banned, but whenever police come by they just kind of check in on you and leave, maybe checking for guns. I didn’t even know it was technically banned until recently.
 

monchan

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" I didn’t even know it was technically banned until recently " Yeah the laws do change regularly from year to year in some prefectures.
This country has a strange way of doing things.