Kicking / flippers

OceanSwimmer

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• Oct 6, 2003

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Re: Flippers....

Originally posted by Jay Styron
Come on, I haven't worn FLIPPERS since I was in the kiddie pool. Lets say fins. Just kidding. I modify my style to match the situation. Take care.
Jay

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--- Well said, Jay: when current, entry, waves, timing, and other forces combine, it's whatever feels correct at the moment....oh, and don't forget swimming sans gear for the fun of it...

 

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Hooch

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• Oct 22, 2003

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Can someone answer something for me? When using longfins, what is the optimal flutter kick amplitude? A buddy said I was overpowering my fins by using excessively wide kicks. He advised rapid, low-amplitude kicks, no greater than the draft created by my body flowing through the water (~12-16 inches). However, someone else mentioned that kicking in the turbulent wake created by your body is inefficient, and you should kick wide enough to clear this wake. What is the correct technique? Sorry for the newbie question.

 

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thud

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• Nov 19, 2003

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Hooch,
That doesn’t seem right to me. I define overpower fins as when more force does not produce any more speed or acceleration. So you’re just burning more O2 with no benefits.

I heard Martin Stepanek had such a wide kick on his 93-meter constant ballast world record that the lanyard was not long enough and he had to bend his arms toward the dive line to get far enough away to not hit the line with his fins. Nobody in the world has been deeper with bi-fins so I would say wide kicks must be good.

I have always heard, wide slow kicks are most efficient. Short quick one for pure speed.
Drew

 

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shaneshac

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• Nov 30, 2003

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Re: Re: Flippers....

Originally posted by OceanSwimmer
--- ....oh, and don't forget swimming sans gear for the fun of it...

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I wouldn't mind watching you do the frog kick Sans gear

 

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SpearSlinger1

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I normally use the flutter kick with my longblades. The sculling technique that Ward talked about, I have been using for years. Particullarly when stalking an individual fish.

I have found that I have more speed with a narrow rapid kick and more towing ability with a wide powerful kick.

To me overpowering the fins is causing the fins to flex so much early in the kick that you're getting very little return for your effort later in the kick, a very easy thing for me to do with my Riffe Silent Hunters (O.ME.R Milleniums) while towing something. Shouldn't be as much of a problem with my new O.ME.R. BAT 40s though.

 

Snorkel Bum

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Dolphin kick is something I really enjoy... but it uses a lot of oxygen...

 

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Pablo

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• Apr 13, 2004

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I use to cycle on the surface, and scissors the way back to avoid over bend the blades.

Now with fibreblades I found a more rich variation of kicks using the different areas and proprieties of the material. But to get back is always a gentle and ample scissors style that seem to use an optimum amount of O2 for the power used. Dolphin is for the great feeling he gives and jumps (sort of!)

One of the new movements I enjoy, is a short fluter with the tip of the blades trying to find the "nerve". He seem to propel with extreme ease but a bit slow.

My question is about a slight noise I seem to produce with the blades (matrix #4), a kind of tip snap: I'm having a hard time to find out how to get rid of it... I'm not even sure why he happens! any idea?

If anyone have good and fresh links to long blades techniques he would be much appreciate: a lot of the old forum links are not longer working!

Thanks,

 

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pyro

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Mostly dolpin with the long fins, unless I get tired so I do the scissor thing. I remeber the first time I used long fins, I had never fined so fast underwater, it was amazing!

 

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nuno tiago

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Most important, i think that you should think in hidrodinamic, and update your kick with your body shap

 

iceselkie

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update: since getting the mono, there is more dolphin kick- the trick now is to keep it streamlined because it likes to swerve. I cant come up with any other descriptive words for the types of kicks achieveable with a monofin, but I'd like if a [mono]finswimmer joined the thread and did!

 

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iparcell

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Can someone explain to me what all these different types of kicks are please