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mares cyrano 850 for beginner
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Some conversion kits are expensive because the contain quite a few new parts but you can DIY the conversion with just a few basic skills or order one from a specialist. There is huge amounts of info on the site....
However, like I said, most spearos use band guns because the formula of a single band & thin spear is a tried & tested method that works very well for our relatively small fish we hunt in England.
I think an air gun might be better to build up to rather than an entry level gun but of course lots of folk use them with great success!
There are various sports shops that sell guns, perhaps some one can point you to one if you are really that keen to get going.
However, like I said, most spearos use band guns because the formula of a single band & thin spear is a tried & tested method that works very well for our relatively small fish we hunt in England.
I think an air gun might be better to build up to rather than an entry level gun but of course lots of folk use them with great success!
There are various sports shops that sell guns, perhaps some one can point you to one if you are really that keen to get going.
to be honest I had the Spark version, same length, same gun, and really did not enjoy it. I simply couldn't shoot it well and was probably too impatient to learn to do better.
I think a beginner need a simple, instinctive and basically accurate gun to achieve high level of confidence quickly.
I like air guns and still love my seac asso 70, but I would recommend you start with any band gun, hopefully with a track and open muzzle, around 75 to 100cm.
Before shooting, seeing the spear is so much more instinctive than not seeing it (in an airgun) IMHO
I think a beginner need a simple, instinctive and basically accurate gun to achieve high level of confidence quickly.
I like air guns and still love my seac asso 70, but I would recommend you start with any band gun, hopefully with a track and open muzzle, around 75 to 100cm.
Before shooting, seeing the spear is so much more instinctive than not seeing it (in an airgun) IMHO
Hi Jules, go with the Comanche.
I have both of these guns and as much as I love my Cyrano, it's not a good first gun.
It needs quite a few mods to get it perfect, for example, buoyancy because it is muzzle heavy.
Like azapa said, sighting along a spear is a much easier way to aim a gun, a good way to learn.
The Comanche is a workhorse gun, no fancy frills but no fancy price tag either, I've had mine a long time and still use/abuse it.
They are light, accurate and easy to maintain, so that would be my recommendation.
Try Anthony at http://www.scubadivingstore.co.uk/spearfishing-equipment-c-63.html, he's a great guy and will point you in the right direction.
Regards,
Dave.
PS If the Cyrano is cheap enough, buy it and mothball it for future use.
I have both of these guns and as much as I love my Cyrano, it's not a good first gun.
It needs quite a few mods to get it perfect, for example, buoyancy because it is muzzle heavy.
Like azapa said, sighting along a spear is a much easier way to aim a gun, a good way to learn.
The Comanche is a workhorse gun, no fancy frills but no fancy price tag either, I've had mine a long time and still use/abuse it.
They are light, accurate and easy to maintain, so that would be my recommendation.
Try Anthony at http://www.scubadivingstore.co.uk/spearfishing-equipment-c-63.html, he's a great guy and will point you in the right direction.
Regards,
Dave.
PS If the Cyrano is cheap enough, buy it and mothball it for future use.
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Hi Mart, yeah, I've been giving it some serious thought.
What benefits do you get apart from more power?
The power of both the 850 and 950 is more than enough for the limited vis' we get round here.
Both will punch a hole through a nice bass, slider and all, I have never had such a high ratio of stoned fish, yesterday I stoned a fish, pulled in the spear, no fish on the end, it was lying on the bottom with the top of it's head bashed in, not speared at all.
I don't like having fish on the spear and try to dispatch them as quickly as possible, so stoning them is a big plus for me.
Anyway, a more balanced gun would be good, maybe quieter too?
I know you're the dry barrel master, your thoughts would be appreciated.
(Jules, sorry to derail your thread, that happens a lot on db.)
Regards,
Dave.
You get a better gun overall, more power for the same psi or same power for less psi (easier loading) but more importantly a smoother shot with far less recoil.
Simple reason = the piston will be pushing the spear only rather than the spear plus water in the barrel.
As you know you cant compress water so when the gun is fired the piston must force the trapped water down & out the barrel - so by stopping the water entering the barrel in the first place you get a much better shot.
There are different methods of doing this but the vacuum systems seem to be the most effective.
Simple reason = the piston will be pushing the spear only rather than the spear plus water in the barrel.
As you know you cant compress water so when the gun is fired the piston must force the trapped water down & out the barrel - so by stopping the water entering the barrel in the first place you get a much better shot.
There are different methods of doing this but the vacuum systems seem to be the most effective.
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Thanks Mart, sounds like the way to go.
Right now I've got to de-tune the hair trigger on the 950, yesterday I almost shot my ear off and lost a loader, the thing just went off in my hands as I loaded it.
Still, pneumatics rock in my opinion, and when I get used to them they will definitely become my main guns.
Regards,
Dave.
Right now I've got to de-tune the hair trigger on the 950, yesterday I almost shot my ear off and lost a loader, the thing just went off in my hands as I loaded it.
Still, pneumatics rock in my opinion, and when I get used to them they will definitely become my main guns.
Regards,
Dave.
No problems devondave on moving on with the thread, to be honest learnt a lot from what you guys have to say about these pneumatic guns. The gun went for £85, new unwanted gift, so probably was a steal but right now i'll probably stick with just picking up my comanche.
off to order it now.
off to order it now.
Dave have a quick look at tromics creations & then send him a pm to see if he will make you a tomba. (he has a new toy - lathe - so might be keen to help)
http://forums.deeperblue.com/pneumatic-spearguns/81791-tomba-all-one-barrel-sealing.html
http://forums.deeperblue.com/pneumatic-spearguns/81791-tomba-all-one-barrel-sealing.html