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Monofin problem
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Wow! That's a big problem as I can see. I think that this is not your beginner friend's fault, just the footpocket became unglued from the blade, maybe it's a problem with the glue that th manufacturer used(if you have the mono many years it is more possible, because glue has a limited lifetime).
You'd better contact the manufacturer and send it back to repair it.
You'd better contact the manufacturer and send it back to repair it.
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I don't remember the chemical name for the glue, but in the states we call it Super Glue. If you look back through some of the threads you can find the proper name of it. It might take a few applications, but with proper drying time I think you could fix it.
I had the footpockets start to pop off the blade on my hyperfin and a bit of super glue did the trick- no more problems!:friday On an old Speicalfins monofin the foot pocket itself tore and I've never found a glue that could fix that problem. :head
Jon
I had the footpockets start to pop off the blade on my hyperfin and a bit of super glue did the trick- no more problems!:friday On an old Speicalfins monofin the foot pocket itself tore and I've never found a glue that could fix that problem. :head
Jon
I wish it is an old glue issue, but it's not.
here is the video:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw_SMfvWBkw]YouTube - Wojtek killing one of the footpockets[/ame]
after 25m when fin hit the start place and come out of the water, You can see his right leg twisted and push up in a weird way. That was a moment when it happened. He made a crawl stroke with his legs, cause he was in panic mode :head On a 50m mark when he's turning You can see unattached footpocket.
The problem is if You look closely, the footpockets are not only glued to blade, they are drilled through, and You can see small bolt hanging down. He brake it out from the blade as it was drilled through :head Sending back is not an option.
I have a friend with lots of tools and we can fix it right, but need an idea. I have one but maybe someone has a better one :blackeye
cheers,
Matt
here is the video:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw_SMfvWBkw]YouTube - Wojtek killing one of the footpockets[/ame]
after 25m when fin hit the start place and come out of the water, You can see his right leg twisted and push up in a weird way. That was a moment when it happened. He made a crawl stroke with his legs, cause he was in panic mode :head On a 50m mark when he's turning You can see unattached footpocket.
The problem is if You look closely, the footpockets are not only glued to blade, they are drilled through, and You can see small bolt hanging down. He brake it out from the blade as it was drilled through :head Sending back is not an option.
I have a friend with lots of tools and we can fix it right, but need an idea. I have one but maybe someone has a better one :blackeye
cheers,
Matt
Ouch - red card, monofin abuse!
We have a glue here called Q-bond. It is super glue and it comes with 2 bottles with white and black powder. When you apply the super glue to the powder it makes a chemical weld. I've used it sucessfully to repair rubber on footpockets, but I'm not sure if it will work well bonding rubber to fiberglass or carbon. No harm in trying.
We have a glue here called Q-bond. It is super glue and it comes with 2 bottles with white and black powder. When you apply the super glue to the powder it makes a chemical weld. I've used it sucessfully to repair rubber on footpockets, but I'm not sure if it will work well bonding rubber to fiberglass or carbon. No harm in trying.
If he has a personal responsibility insurance, and if the fin is not too old, you can get some money back for the repair, or for a new fin from the insurance. The personal responsibility insurance plans are often attached to other insurance plans. They are also included with some credit card offers. It is worth of trying it. A club colleague of mine ripped a new Elios wetsuit of another friend with a monofin, and the insurance covered the purchase of a replacement wetsuit without any big problems.
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Hello,
purify both surfaces of old adhesive using sandpaper or similar ! Wipe dry everything with a cloth made of cotton dust! Buy super glue (loctite, cianopan,alteco 110), and start to use (apply) glue on a few drops at a time and then pressed the shoes in place and hold 20 seconds! The main thing - do not shed much glue at once and not try to glue the entire surface at once! Excess adhesive flowing from the side, wipe with a cloth.
Good luck !
p.s Your friend is not guilty !
purify both surfaces of old adhesive using sandpaper or similar ! Wipe dry everything with a cloth made of cotton dust! Buy super glue (loctite, cianopan,alteco 110), and start to use (apply) glue on a few drops at a time and then pressed the shoes in place and hold 20 seconds! The main thing - do not shed much glue at once and not try to glue the entire surface at once! Excess adhesive flowing from the side, wipe with a cloth.
Good luck !
p.s Your friend is not guilty !
Alex,
Have a look at photo noumber 1, there is a screw hanging down, it doesn't want go to it's place on the other side of the blade. On photo noumber 3, You can see a small hole, where was the screw, it was braken out with a lot of force
Have a look at photo noumber 1, there is a screw hanging down, it doesn't want go to it's place on the other side of the blade. On photo noumber 3, You can see a small hole, where was the screw, it was braken out with a lot of force
Believe me and do as I mentioned! Simply delete or cut the screw and a gift his to friend - he's not needed!
i watched that all the way through with my face screwed up like the scarey bit was about to happen in a horror movie. ouch. Newbies, little plastic bi-fins or your third best fin!
Whos fault. The lender.
Does he exhale at the beginning then do four packing 'motions' to get a breath?
Whos fault. The lender.
Does he exhale at the beginning then do four packing 'motions' to get a breath?
I'd listen to Alex
I have also used another glue - which is more flexible than superglue. It is white and is used for gluing rubber onto fiberglass boats - it works quite well on monofins but I do not have the name - I and my dive buddy have repaired two hyperfins with it - one nearly identical with yours in damage.
You can certainly repair that fin. - I agree that it is not the fault of the user.
I have also used another glue - which is more flexible than superglue. It is white and is used for gluing rubber onto fiberglass boats - it works quite well on monofins but I do not have the name - I and my dive buddy have repaired two hyperfins with it - one nearly identical with yours in damage.
You can certainly repair that fin. - I agree that it is not the fault of the user.
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For my classic model fin I was advised to use car tyre glue Tiptop 4 for the larger surface, and "locktight" for the tip. Indeed I recognise that the screw is not necessary.
oh and NEVER give beginners your own hyperfin.
I lend mine to a person that is able to use one, but an accident is in a small corner and now I have a little patched up crack in my dear fin.
"Natalia", a lovely extension I very often feel quite attached to.
oh and NEVER give beginners your own hyperfin.
I lend mine to a person that is able to use one, but an accident is in a small corner and now I have a little patched up crack in my dear fin.
"Natalia", a lovely extension I very often feel quite attached to.
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Thanks for reply guys,
Fonduset: please if You could find out name of the glue, let me know
As for the guilty thing, I don't really care whos fault is it I'm not looking for guilty, what's done that's done
cheers again
Matt
Fonduset: please if You could find out name of the glue, let me know
As for the guilty thing, I don't really care whos fault is it
I'm not looking for guilty, what's done that's done cheers again
Matt
Really - under such circumstance the fin would not separate unless it was going anyway. I'll try to find out what the white stuff is called. I've used it on my Tropol - which has synthetic footpockets, and on a Triton - which is similar to yours. So far 100% success after much mileage.
However Alex knows WAY more about this than I do. He builds the most well put together hyperfins I've seen.
However Alex knows WAY more about this than I do. He builds the most well put together hyperfins I've seen.
Okay - heres a description of the stuff from my friend Ken - who learned about it from some friends of his who work on boats:
It is 3M Marine Adhesive Sealant
5200 Fast Cure. It is a one part,
polyurethane used for watertight
seals on joints and boat hardware.
It has a cure time of 24 hours, and
is available at marine supply stores.
Read and follow the directions and
it works great. /QUOTE]
The repair Ken did on his Triton was similar to yours - though not as severe. My Tropol had less separation - it was more a preventative measure in that case.
This stuff worked - but again - Alex is a much better source of advice.
With either glue it is essential to super-clean the area to be glued.
This stuff worked - but again - Alex is a much better source of advice.
With either glue it is essential to super-clean the area to be glued.
Oh, 3M - it`s a fantstic products ! But i think expensive so and not easy to find !
Matt, your fin was glued by Tip-Top for tires repair - it`s so good glue too, but have very vapour poisonous and we not work with it ! But few my friends use it and one from they made your fin
Do not search no ways !!! In your country possible to buy real "CIJANOPAN" (red or blue) - it`s a very good glue ! But surfaces on the blade and footpocket must to dry and clear from old glue ! problem in your fin between footpockets, wich was repared ! This is possible to repair in 15 minutes :t and use after allways.
Matt, your fin was glued by Tip-Top for tires repair - it`s so good glue too, but have very vapour poisonous and we not work with it ! But few my friends use it and one from they made your fin
Do not search no ways !!! In your country possible to buy real "CIJANOPAN" (red or blue) - it`s a very good glue ! But surfaces on the blade and footpocket must to dry and clear from old glue ! problem in your fin between footpockets, wich was repared ! This is possible to repair in 15 minutes :t and use after allways.
Alex - this word 'Cijanopan' is not computing in my brain Is this what you mean Permabond Cyanoacrylate Adhesive Selector Cyanoacrylate - 'Super Glue'. The best type I have used is called 'Gel' - it is made thick - like syrup - so it does not drip.
Is this what you mean Permabond Cyanoacrylate Adhesive Selector Cyanoacrylate - 'Super Glue'. The best type I have used is called 'Gel' - it is made thick - like syrup - so it does not drip.
I just said, as he called in his country! Because we have a lot of things Chinese ... that is not glues! And in defining you're right - Cyanoacrylate ! Gel or not - does not matter - the original and the quality thing!