Need Help with Static Tables

[another world]

Hey I am just getting in to freediving and does andybody have any advice for al layout static table, for example how long i should be resting after each hold, which holds should be my longest, and which ones should just be easy holds. And also are you supposed to take a break throughout the week or just keep going through it continuois. Pleas Help me out.

thanx,

Another World

 

[pioe19]

Hey!
For table A:
rest time | apnea time
2:00|2:00
2:00|2:00
1:50|2:00
1:40|2:00
1:30|2:00
1:20|2:00
1:10|2:00
1:00|2:00

You can change this table if you fill too good rofl

 

[gnusa]

Hey!
For table A:
rest time | apnea time
2:00|2:00
2:00|2:00
1:50|2:00
1:40|2:00
1:30|2:00
1:20|2:00
1:10|2:00
1:00|2:00

You can change this table if you fill too good rofl

Hey I dont mean to be rude or sth, but like I consider myself a beginer and I have breathholds that are normal like 3:40 to 4 minutes. And my personal best time is 5:05( 5 minutes and 5 secunds). Can u give me more advanced tables and tell me few ways of training. I am 20 years old now, and had my best time on 17, couldnt find trainer or diving club interested to help me, considering the fact that I live in macedonia( u know balkans, former yugoslav republic bla bla...). I dont dont dive now( last time was a month ago) cose is winter here and our pool is closed. I do yoga though. I will be happy if u or anyone help me with any information. U can give me like: diving advice, static tables, fitness and other activities that help and improve my time andd anything that helps and... tank u in advance... and I also would like to work as profesional scuba diver. Beter than nondiving job. Am ready to work ony diving job. I will take the preparations and get qualified and go for it... tank u for your time.
Darko Volinkoski.

 

[pioe19]

Ok!
For example Table A:
______________________________
apnea | resp
prepare| 2:00
2:00 | 2:00
2:00 | 1:50
2:00 | 1:40
2:00 | 1:30
2:00 | 1:20
2:00 | 1:10
2:00 | 1:00
2:00 | end
_____________________________
Point 1.
apnea | resp
(more respiration with minimal time)
prepare 2:00
2:00 | 2:00
2:00 | 1:50
2:00 | 1:40
2:00 | 1:00
2:00 | 1:00
2:00 | 1:00
2:00 | 1:00
2:00 | end
_____________________________
Point 2.
apnea | resp
(all times respiration short)
prepare 2:00
2:00 | 1:50
2:00 | 1:40
2:00 | 1:30
2:00 | 1:20
2:00 | 1:10
2:00 | 1:00
2:00 | 0:50
2:00 | end
____________________________
Point 3.
apnea | resp
(longer apnea times)
prepare 2:00
2:10 | 2:00
2:10 | 1:50
2:10 | 1:40
2:10 | 1:30
2:10 | 1:20
2:10 | 1:10
2:10 | 1:00
2:10 | end
___________________________

I training with this table A

Piotr Sanocki

 

[pioe19]

Nice to meet you. I'm from Poland and I have too 20 years
I usually training alone. I don't remember when I was last time at pool (maybe 6 mounth ago ). I work hard because I want buy new fin Gara 2000 HF That's my motivation for this time



(sorry for my english )

 

[lungfish]

Here is a pretty aggessive tolerance table that I posted on the "New Freediver in Training" thread.

Phase one O2 Table (day 1)
1.vent 2:00 static 1:00
2.vent 2:00 static 1:15
3.vent 2:00 static 1:30
4.vent 2:00 static 1:45
5.vent 2:00 static 2:00
6.vent 2:00 static 2:15
7.vent 2:00 static 2:30
8.vent 2:00 static 2:30

duration 30:45


Phase one CO2 Table (day 3)
1. vent 2:30 static 1:30
2. vent 2:15 static 1:30
3. vent 2:00 static 1:30
4. vent 1:45 static 1:30
5. vent 1:30 static 1:30
6. vent 1:15 static 1:30
7. vent 1:00 static 1:30
8. vent 1:00 static 1:30
duration 25:15

Phase 2 02 Table begins at 1:15
duration 32:45
Phase 2 C02 Table begins at 2:15
duration 23:15

Phase 3 02 Table begins at 1:30
duration 34:45
Phase 3 C02 Table begins at 2:00
duration 21:15

and so on through Phase 10.



Rest assured that if you follow this pattern you will get a terrific training boost and your "down time" and comfort levels will improve considerably.

 

[pioe19]

Yes that's right! Try training with tables for CO2, or O2. This metod changes tolerance for CO2 in blood. Note your results!

 

[gnioco]

Hello to everyone....Im a new on this forum...

You can do your static training also online...its fun !

http://www.impulseadventure.com/assets/apnea_tbl_mozzi/start.htm

Bye,Nejc,Slovenia

 

[trux]

Our typical static training hour contains excercises as follows:

1. 2 - 3 expiratory apneas for relaxing (you dive and slowly release air during the whole apnea). The apnea usually takes between 1 - 3 min. Breathup between the apneas as needed to get calm (usually 1-2 minutes)
   
2. Breathup to relax 2-3 mins (may be little more)
   
3. Hypercapnic table - constant breathholds length, and breathups (BU) starting at 1:30, decreasing by 15s, series ending by 3x BH + 15s BU. The constant apnea length depends on the level of the freediver. Newcomers to the club start at 1:30 or 1:45, advanced apneists make tables with apneas over 3mins - I use 3 minutes in my example:
   
   
   apnea| breathup
   3:00 | 1:30
   3:00 | 1:15
   3:00 | 1:00
   3:00 | 0:45
   3:00 | 0:30
   3:00 | 0:15
   3:00 | 0:15
   3:00 | 0:15
   3:00+| end​
4. breathup until relax (2 -5 min)
   
5. hypoxic table: the opposite of the previous table - the breathup is constant (usually 1 min or 1:30), the breatholding increases by 15s. For example:
   
   
   apnea| breathup
   3:15 | 1:00
   3:30 | 1:00
   3:45 | 1:00
   4:00 | 1:00
   4:15+| end​

We often do also other tables or excercises (negatives, semidynamic, pyramids,...), but in fact I prefer when it is mostly the same - in that way you can feel the progress better - as soon as you get comfortable with your table, you increase the apnea time.

 

[pioe19]

trux, are you sure that this tables is for BEGINNER FREEDIVER?

3:00 apnea? You want to kill somebodyrofl If you can hold you breath for 3 minutes now, that doesn't means thats you can do this at start training freediving:naughty

 

[SEDATE]

...............
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3:00 | 0:30
3:00 | 0:15
3:00 | 0:15
3:00 | 0:15
3:00+| end

How you can do this :15sec rest hold 3:00 and 0:15 rest..hold...................... :rofl
where did you come dude?

 

[trux]

trux, are you sure that this tables is for BEGINNER FREEDIVER?

3:00 apnea? You want to kill somebodyrofl If you can hold you breath for 3 minutes now, that doesn't means thats you can do this at start training freediving:naughty

Hmm, I clearly told that each person adjusts the length of the apnea according to his/her level. I also wrote

Newcomers to the club start at 1:30 or 1:45, advanced apneists make tables with apneas over 3mins

Personaly, I consider myself beginner (and am not a young man) - I started trainings just 4 months ago, but I do the hypercapnic table with 2:45 and consider going up to 3:00. Hence for beginners who claim doing routinely dry apneas ~4min and PB close to 5min, like the people who posted in this thread - for those the table with a 3:00 apnea should be really no problem. In dry apnea I barely do 75% of my performance in pool, and I have yet to hit my 5 min PB. So if someone does dry apnea of 5:00, he/she certainly can do the table with 3:00 (or at very least 2:45) in pool too. Doing it dry may be more difficult (at least it is for me), so reducing the apnea by 15-30s may be necessary.

In contrary, the hypoxic table is not too difficult, and the times in the table are suitable even for slightly advanced beginners like myself. But of course, again, everyone should adjust the starting as needed, and keeping just the increments and breathups. So for example newcomers to the club start with 1:30 - 2:00 and try to make 4-6 increments by 15s

 

[DanBolt]

Hi Folks

It always good to be discussing these things with like-minded people! We were all beginners once ;-)

I just wanted to point out that the link supplied by gnioco to the Static Apnea Training Tables online might cause you some problems!

As the chap who wrote the SATTs in the first place I found out that the timings given by the tables were totally dependand on the processing power of your computer. So in the version that Mozzi skinned and has placed on a site to run on the web could possibly lead to very inaccurate timings!

On a 50min + table it is possible for the timings to be out by over a minute! This could be important to you if you're pushing static times.

I've still got the original version available for download on my site, which you can run on your computer. Please read the readme file to see what I mean about adjusting the timings for your own computer

You can get the .exe here:
http://www.underwaterpics.co.uk

Just trying to help!

Dan

 

[trux]

I just wanted to point out that the link supplied by gnioco to the Static Apnea Training Tables online might cause you some problems!

Many thanks, Dan, for this excellent tool! I don't mind if the accurcy of the online table is not perfect (1' at 50' is not too bad). However, I was thinking about programming similar tool, with little bit different functionality, so I want to ask you if you'd mind if I used your sound files for it? They are pretty slick, and I'd certainly have problems to make them so nice.

BTW, what happened to http://www.freediver.co.uk your table page links to? It shows just a domain squatter who offers the domain name for sale.

 

[DanBolt]

Hi Trux,

Thanks for the kind words Help yourself to the sound files, one is me and and the other is my other half!

Sadly www.freediver.co.uk is no longer active, but I've kept the link in the sofware just in case it ever gets resurected. I also wanted to let people know where Aharon's article was published. I didn't design the science behind the tables, I just took Aharon's idea and turned it into some javascript!

Dan

 

[joe123321]

Hey, I am trying to get back into this, my max is about 2 minutes. can someone tell me some good tables I can do?