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New C4 mono VGR Flap

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rxcnc2

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At the Lignano competition in October 2008, C4 had several of their new
products available for try out, see images below. The C4 people were there
(father and daughter) and were extremely friendly, helpful and ready to
listen to users' feedback.
Below some of my own comments - I have no relation to C4

The bright yellow color apparently was chosen following requests to
have more visibility. These products are intended for freedivers, not
spearfishers.

The footpockets are in Mustang style, i.e. full shoes at an angle to the
blade, with laces for a tight, adjustable fit. I tried the mono, the foot
pocket was very generous for my foot size and had to ask a smaller
size. Even so, it was still "too comfortable" but that's because I didn't
tighten it with laces I suppose.

The blade stiffness is different from 80's, that's why it's called 81.
Don't know exactly the difference. The "VGR" acronym is related to a
new concept of water flow around the fin. The blades in the bifins are less
wide than in the classical Falcon/Mustang. The Mono looks like two
bifins stuck together (of course it isn't). The "nose" (flap) is much
more pronounced than in earlier models. The side waterguides are
thicker and taller. The screws that hold the blade to the footpocket
seem to be better secured than in the older 80's that I have, with
a rubber cover.

"Driving experience": I tried the mono only, first with my normal
kick-and-glide style. I felt the push was not so strong (not surprising
given the small surface) and especially I had problems in the glide phase
to keep it straight and centered - note also I am not a good finswimmer.
However, I did a second lap with more regular (continuous) kicking,
and had a much better impression: the fin was responsive and much
more stable. I think that given its dimensions (long and narrow) this
mono is better suited for this. I cannot comment on materials, since
I really do not have experience with other carbon blades other than
the 80's - which by the way I still love.

About a dozen other people tried both bi- and mono there, so perhaps they
can comment too. What I heard is that the company has given such
fins to several big athletes (Carlos, Umberto...) and they are willing to
make special modifications to the stiffness, and also to the angle
(parallelism) between the foot pockets.

These products are for sale already. The official price of the bi-fins
was 429 (439?) euros, but they were available with a significant
discount from their stand so I assume that some distributors might
be able to offer a better price too. Don't know the price of the mono.






 

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I also tried the monofin.
The footpockets are very comfortable and big, i used much smaller size than anticipated.
i've been told by the representative(btw very helpful and pleasant) that the idea is to use cotton(not neoprene!?) socks with it to make better fit.
The laces should be used as in shoes to fasten them to feet.

The blade is very soft, so the push was rather small as i used the continuous kick style.
The time used to test, i think, was too short, it takes time to adjust. It's a pity that there wasn't a stiffer model (representative said that Carlos Coste has such) for the tryout.

The lady from C4 said she's also a deeperblue member, so maybe she could give more info.

I'm very grateful for the chance to test this interesting mono.
 
Hi!

I'm sorry if I get late back to you...:head

rxcnc2 I do not know who you are, but why don't you work for us?
Great explanation at all, I don't know what to say now... rofl

First of all let me say: Thank you.
To all people who were at Lignano Sabbiadoro.
Great exibition, great organisation, great athletes, great audience!
Thanks in particular at who try our products and give their own personal feedback to me and my father. Thanks again.

As rxcnc2 said we have a new bifins 81 VGR and a mono MonoFlap VGR on the market.
Those products are made JUST for apnea. No spearfishing.
They are made with MEGAFORCE T700 carbon fiber, a new carbon fiber, 40% stronger than the old one ( stronger for broken problems, but with the same hardness as in the past ).
The water-rails are VGR type= Variable Geometry Rails.
Those are different and are made to cacht and let the water flow along the blade during the movement.
Anatomical footpoket right and left with adjustable cloosing in 5 differents sizes.
The footpoket and the water-rails are jellow. First of all for safety, we think that safety is very important into the water. Jellow also because is smart.

I attached some photos...

Ciao ciao,
Nata
 

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So when are some of these Demo fins going to make it over to the USA?

Will the mono come in different stiffness levels- like the bi-fins?

Jon
 
I was thinking of contacting Mark Laboccetta to see if they were going to be stocking any of these. I don't know if they run any demos out though. The mono would be interesting to try.
 
Sounds like a good thing to have up at something like Freedive-A-Palooza.

Trying out lots of different gear, for free, was how the whole thing got started.

Jon
 
If the dates get posted, I was thinking just that Not certain who is running the Freedive-A-Palooza this year. But I do hope to have some demo gear.
 
There are a few shops out here on the west coast that have them. Might be worth looking into...
 
Mark Laboccetta took some 81 VGR and MonoFLap VGR in the last order. I do not know if he has still something.... ask him!
He is our exclusive FINS dealer for USA, ask him without any problems.

If you need something more I'm here.

About the stiffness, for both model there is a standard hardness, similar to old 80's.
 
The Mustang pockets are the most comfortable things I've ever worn, and I'd love to try it out; but, that's a lot of coin for something I've never even tried on. I would love a chance to try before I buy.

Jon
 
Whoah! At that price I gotta try it before I could even consider it. Be a nice winter fin though.
 
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