• Welcome to the DeeperBlue.com Forums, the largest online community dedicated to Freediving, Scuba Diving and Spearfishing. To gain full access to the DeeperBlue.com Forums you must register for a free account. As a registered member you will be able to:

    • Join over 44,280+ fellow diving enthusiasts from around the world on this forum
    • Participate in and browse from over 516,210+ posts.
    • Communicate privately with other divers from around the world.
    • Post your own photos or view from 7,441+ user submitted images.
    • All this and much more...

    You can gain access to all this absolutely free when you register for an account, so sign up today!

New hunter needs advice on American gun...

Thread Status: Hello , There was no answer in this thread for more than 60 days.
It can take a long time to get an up-to-date response or contact with relevant users.
D

dspdiver

New Member
Apr 2, 2008
2
0
0
Greetings from Louisiana!!
Just got back from my first spearfishing trip in Destin, FL and I am hooked!! Spending way too much time agonizing over what gun to buy. (just happens to be my bd in a week and guess what I'm getting me??) Here's my situation--want to be able to fish blue water at the rigs off LA and have friends with a place in the Keys. Shot a Biller 48 and JBL Magnum last week--both 2 bands. Got lucky on 5 shots, but they were small 4-5 lb grouper and the like...My host is a die hard Biller guy, so all of my advice thus far is slanted that way...Don't see myself going after tuna or huge blue water stuff any time soon, but want to buy a quality gun that I can advance with...Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated...thanks
 
G

gman080788

Great White Spearo
Jun 3, 2007
57
6
0
i notice you were talking about american guns but i have found the the best gun for a good price is the SeaTec Gabbiano snake 110cm it is fantastic just bought one it is great look it up on google ... good luck man
 
G

gman080788

Great White Spearo
Jun 3, 2007
57
6
0
p.s. its euro gun tho ...
 
Whopperhead

Whopperhead

Wisconsin Speargun Hunter
Mar 2, 2007
2,273
292
173
46
Look into the HammerHead 100cm - nice and quiet and real accurate! Thin 6.5mm shaft and strong! Easy to hook up to floats if needed.

Home of HammerHead Spearguns
 
Coral Sniper

Coral Sniper

Dreaming of GT's
Oct 10, 2006
201
24
58
How about a riffe c3, Good allrounder can take big fish and is accurate.

Quality: Lets just say a Riffe will be around for a long time!

I think it is worth the extra cash if you plan to be spearing alot.;)
 
Mongrel454

Mongrel454

Newbie Stalker
Mar 14, 2008
549
55
0
47
Ofcoarse the best option would be the DARK side :p

Seac ASSO 115 with mamba, once u try it you will never go back :)
 
Marwan

Marwan

Gear Buying addict
Supporter
Sep 3, 2005
2,464
589
218
47
I think forum member Rigdvr is in your area...could maybe drop him a PM,,.if you plan to hunt arount rigs, then there will be some decent sized fish...from the american gunmakers i would recommend a wong hybrid, maybe 50-55 inches..maybe shorter depending on the visibility there...they are super guns and daryl is an amazing person to deal with. Try giving him a call, chances are he sold quite a ferw guns to guys in your area so will know exactly what you need.id go with the regular twin band hybrid or the magnum hybrid..another option would be riffes..probably cheaper then wong and a very decent and effective gun too..im afraid i dont have any experience with Hammerheads, billers or JBL's..
 
D

dspdiver

New Member
Apr 2, 2008
2
0
0
Thanks to all for the advice and input. I have a couple more questions:
1. Any thoughts on AB Biller or JBL?
2. How about wood vs metal.

Any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated. I am going to buy a gun next week and this information is very helpful.
 
Coral Sniper

Coral Sniper

Dreaming of GT's
Oct 10, 2006
201
24
58
AB biller is much better gun then JBL (in my mind)

The billers seem to be put together with spearing fish in mind,some of the jbls are setup weird.

Most billers are made of wood, and wood floats,If you freedive then you want the gun to float when the shaft is out(all guns should sink with the spear in).That way if you spear a fish in a hole the gun will be floating up and not tangled on the bottom and it will be a shorter dive for ya to get the gun. There are lots of other reasons to have a gun that floats.

I still say a riffe c3 would be a good gun for ya but a abbiller would probably work too!

Good luck on your choice
 
Whopperhead

Whopperhead

Wisconsin Speargun Hunter
Mar 2, 2007
2,273
292
173
46
I have a couple JBL's - I like them for Larger Fish 20# or larger- but for smaller fish- not so good- they put a large hole in them. I've never had a problem with my JBL's the woody is nice and floats after the shot. But i still prefer the HH overall. It's a hard choice lots of good guns out there- just have to pick one- keep in mind- you get what you pay for.
 
icarus pacific

icarus pacific

Human-in-training
Nov 7, 2001
2,880
212
0
63
The JBL's are a lot better than they were some 37 yrs ago, but they are still very tough guns. The Gulf Magnum can be made to work very well, but might limit you down the road. The best thing about them is the price.

Billers have a large local following there and are well made and have support for the repairs and adds, so you're good to go there. I'm not a fan of them particularly but only because I started with different guns and such.

If you really want to get into it in a big way, I'd look seriously at the Riffe Metal Tech series. They are ridiculously strong and well made, can be modified to any degree, have available parts and aren't cheap. But you'll hand it down to your kids. A MT 3-4 will keep you growing very well.

Mike (Rigdiver) is a fan of Wong spearguns, like myself, and you could do a lot worse than those guns, but now you're talking pricey.
 
P

Pastor

Supporter
Supporter
Mar 17, 2004
3,773
698
0
58
Mike (Rigdiver) is a fan of Wong spearguns, like myself, and you could do a lot worse than those guns, but now you're talking pricey.
Yeah but it's a gun for life and nice ones at that :) I'm really pleased with mine despite the hefty import tax and shipping to the Sunny UK. Guess you have to love your spearin!
 
settingsteel

settingsteel

SettingSteel
Supporter
Aug 14, 2007
1,419
213
0
Best advice is to git ya hands on a few guns and try'em out...nowadays most guns are pretty good sure some better than others, and pricier too....mucho get what you pay for...Wongs are good, Riffes (as well as the Euro) are sweet, Kevins are also quite good and versatile...and farters are also excellent...try a few, kill some fish and have some fun while your at it!
 
Bill McIntyre

Bill McIntyre

San Clemente, CA
Staff member
Forum Mentor
Jan 27, 2005
3,490
1,227
368
83
You can't go wrong with Wong.
 
icarus pacific

icarus pacific

Human-in-training
Nov 7, 2001
2,880
212
0
63
One other thing you'll need to think about is losing it. Everyone I know, including me has lost a gun in the beginning. You lose a JBL or the like and it's a pain, but it's not a biggie.

You have to dump a Riffe, or one of my Wongs, Alexanders or Sea Snipers, yeah, that's a bitch. And you wannabes out there can call me out for leaving my Prodonavich's on the wall, but those are priceless.

You can always go cheaper, decide if you like the sport and then ebay the gun and go get a gun that really suits you.

I hear the WSB are showing, Bill. Harold looks like he's in form.
 
MahiMan

MahiMan

New Member
Mar 14, 2008
226
25
0
I still use my first speargun JBL Woody Sawed Off Magnum. It will limit you in the long run but is a good intro gun not to mention tough, I've had to mod mine a bit: different shaft, bands, line, and grooved the muzzle to follow the barrel's track. I'm def starting to outgrow it, but it still catches me fish :)
 
Bill McIntyre

Bill McIntyre

San Clemente, CA
Staff member
Forum Mentor
Jan 27, 2005
3,490
1,227
368
83

Attachments

  • fuzz45.JPG
    fuzz45.JPG
    101.1 KB · Views: 100
R

rg_garcia

New Member
Apr 16, 2008
20
0
0
Sounds like you need a "RIFFE". Billere is ok. But I always say spend the extra $ and you'll be happier down the road. I have several guns in my collection. But I always end up taking my Riffe 4x. This to me is the all around gun. You can use this in reef and rigs. I have a brand new Islander and never take it out. I have a brand new standard #2. never takeit out. Mainly because the 4x can do the job of both.
Well maybe it's not a canon like the Islander but close. 2 9/16 and the 3rd (if i need it) is a 5/8. My first gun was a jbl custom and I still have it. I sometimes take it as my back up. Well good luck and be careful.
 
irtrogdor

irtrogdor

Well-Known Member
Oct 27, 2007
197
12
108
Biller is a fine brand, as is JBL. The main thing to do is avoid jumping the gun. Wait until you know exactly what you want, then find a gun that meets your needs. A speargun is a very simple machine, so you have to look carefully for the one that's perfect for you.
 
S

sancarlos

Well-Known Member
Apr 29, 2008
42
1
93
Yeah but it's a gun for life and nice ones at that :) I'm really pleased with mine despite the hefty import tax and shipping to the Sunny UK. Guess you have to love your spearin!
Totaly agree with Pastor! I just got mine 55" Hibride Carbon from Daryl Wong. The gun is amazing technically - enclosed track very soft trigger and immaculate workmanship, very heavy since it balanced to eliminate the recoil. Dr. Wong spend an hour with me over the phone to discuss what model I need for my type of spear fishing and answer dozens of question... I hunted with pneumatics most of my life, recently bought JBL 48", which make mixed impression (I guess it is OK beginner gun). If money is not a limiting factor - go Wong!
 
DeeperBlue.com - The Worlds Largest Community Dedicated To Freediving, Scuba Diving and Spearfishing

ABOUT US

ISSN 1469-865X | Copyright © 1996 - 2022 deeperblue.net limited.

DeeperBlue.com is the World's Largest Community dedicated to Freediving, Scuba Diving, Spearfishing and Diving Travel.

We've been dedicated to bringing you the freshest news, features and discussions from around the underwater world since 1996.

ADVERT