New WR CANF

[dannybuoy]

Waited until today to announce this news, since i thought that it wouldn't have been regarded with the gravity it deserves on April Fool's day, but Daan Verhoeven of the Netherlands has set a new world record in the category Constant Apple No Fins.

Read the story and watch the video here:

Daan Verhoeven: WORLD RECORD!!! Constant Apple No Fins

or just the vid without the thrilling back-story on youtube:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev5yvtewE5A]YouTube - Freediving world record constant apple no fins[/ame]

 

[trux]

I am sorry, but this performance is invalid, and Daan needs to be disqualified - the apple was clearly not constant at all, since he has bitten off chunks of it in the depth. The result can't be anything else than a red card! :rcard

 

[dannybuoy]

Protest invalid: the rules (mentioned in the article) clearly state that 'the athlete must take one (1) bite at the announced depth'. Since the total amount of apple remains constant, though with one bite now in stomach rather than in mouth, it is still 'constant apple'.

Record stands.

 

[trux]

Sorry, but this is rejected by the jury and won't be accepted into the ranking. Constant apple is constant apple and no biting will be allowed. Otherwise we would have to accept freedivers biting off chunks of their lead weight belts and neckweigth in the depth too.

 

[trux]

Additionally, when you swallow the piece of apple, in the stomach it starts producing gastric gases, functioning so like a liftbag. So this attempt cannot be even accepted as Variable Apple. It could be only accepted as No Limit Apple.

 

[dannybuoy]

Objection to jury: they have obviously not read the rules.

It is clearly stated in rule 4:3, subparagraph Delta, section 82-92, that a 'bite MUST be taken'.

As for the comparison to the lesser disciplines, it goes quite limp in that the weight would remain constant. One is not allowed to ditch the weights, but certainly to redistribute them over or even in the body.

 

[trux]

Yes, but there are two problems:

1) You forgot the fermentation and the gastric gas production. If you read the Aquatic Ape Theory thread, already our humanoids ancestors used this technique for buoyancy control, since gastric gases contain hydrogen, so it brings you up like a rocket. So you are using not only the weight of the apple, but also its propulsive lift force. That's clearly No Limits Apple and no Constant Apple.

2) And even if we ignore the serious violation #1 and would permit it, we'd have to face a serious logistic problem. We cannot be sure the missing piece of apple did not leave your body on one or the other way. So we would have to inspect the content of your stomach and guts after the dive. If we permit swallowing of weights at normal competitions, I don't want to see the mess. Imagine a freediver surfacing after a CWT dive without his neckweight: the judge asks
"Where is your neckweight?"
"Ah, I just swallowed it"
Clearly, verifying whether it is true or not would be quite messy and time consuming.

 

[mortenkv]

Next record attempt, I suspect, will be held in a big tank filled with applejuice!

 

[Jee]

Nice one. High level conversation also.

Question: where will be the World Championship for this discipline?

Mooore seriously: would it be a cheat at the somewhat more regular disciplines to eat a capsule of a material, that - connecting with the stomach acid - produce gas. The capsule would melt in the required time, so the gas creation would happen at the depth - helping the athlete to ascent, thus changing the CWT to VWT, unawares? Perhaps the strange pronuncation of the "I'm OK!" could be revealing..

 

[Kars]

I thing that would be dangerous, because the tablet or gas could get trapped in some part of the intestates, blow up, causing great internal bleeding and may be the shock pressure waves endangering safety divers like depth bombs to submarines!

 

[Jee]

We should even consider the blown up diver to ascent so very fast, that perhaps breaking the surface, even launched to orbital - endangering the air traffic, and the satellites (even the ISS).

So, the strong recommendation is: this method should not be used.

 

[trux]

The gastric gas buayncy control is an important topic that AIDA and WADA should investigate. The other one is its use for equalizing at depth. Did anyone analyze the content of Herbert's Coke Equex bottle after he surfaced from his 214m NLT?

 

[BennyB]

And here I was thinking you had a nice pear...

 

[apneaboy]

I reckon a diver eating their lead would get a white card still.

I remember on a spearing forum one of the world record catch fish had swallowed some lead and it was legally included in the weighed fish as it had been in there sometime.

White card, record stands
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[dannybuoy]

Apneaboy for president -of the jury.

No gass during this dive, though that does seem like fun. Constant Fart No Fins. But did get a lot of comments from people who said "Hey, i peed in that pool that day". 40 competitors, 3 disciplines, so i guess i could also call it Constant Apple No Fins With Urine -or claim it as a saltwater record.