nose-clip + goggles

[subaquaticus]

I can easily figure out doing dynamic apnea in a swimming pool with nose-clip + goggles...

but when it comes to constant weight, it is another story...

what should I do with my goggles ?

should I put them on once in the sea, filling them with water directly taken from the sea :waterwork ?

should I bring physiological serum with myself on the boat ??

 

[jome]

If you're not wearing the so called "fluid goggles", but just normal swimming goggles, I'd suggest that you don't fill them. You will not be able to see almost anything. "fluid goggles" have very powerful corrective lenses that help you see underwater, even if they are full of water (in fact, wearing them dry, you will not see much anything).

Some people use seawater, but if if's not very clean, this can be bad for your eyes. Others use a saline solution, such as is used to store and clean contact lenses. You can find some from virtually any store that sells contact lenses...

 

[subaquaticus]

If you're not wearing the so called "fluid goggles", but just normal swimming goggles, I'd suggest that you don't fill them. You will not be able to see almost anything.

If I wear "normal" swimming goggles without filling them with water, I shall get a barotraumatism in the eyes :waterwork , shan't I ?

 

[pat fish]

yes - unless there is a tube between the goggles and your mouth. By the way regular NaCl 0.9% would do fine. If you wanna save money: mix 1 table spoon (approximately 10g) in 1 litre of drinking water. You'll be fine as well and you can practice filling goggles ( ) without loosing too much money! I am very much looking forward to doing some constant weight diving here in the lakes of switzerland wearing goggles and paradisia nose clip...
just try it! pat

 

[subaquaticus]

yes - unless there is a tube between the goggles and your mouth. By the way regular NaCl 0.9% would do fine. If you wanna save money: mix 1 table spoon (approximately 10g) in 1 litre of drinking water. You'll be fine as well and you can practice filling goggles ( ) without loosing too much money! I am very much looking forward to doing some constant weight diving here in the lakes of switzerland wearing goggles and paradisia nose clip...
just try it! pat

Then you are the lucky owner of a paradisia nse clip...

How much did you pay for it ?

What colour ?

I decided to buy one such nose-clip (it costs here 29 €)...

The only colour available now in Paris is yellow and I would like a blue one...

Such a nose clip will be useful to me already in dynamic apnea (my present nose clip lets a little water in and I hate it...)

I also envisage doing constant weight, but up to now I didn't solve the problem of the goggles...

 

[Rémi]

Have a look here if you want to dive with goggles http://www.liquivision.ca/fgmain.html

Howerver, I think I read on an other post your current PB is 25m as you are quite new to freediving... am I right?
If this is the case I think you are going into complications for not much using goggles.
If You have trubbles equalizing at those depths, you might want to practice a bite more the technique or get a low volume mask (minima or sphera)
Fluid goggles are usually for verry experienced freedivers who want to win a few more metters to break a record.

Just my two cents

 

[subaquaticus]

Have a look here if you want to dive with goggles http://www.liquivision.ca/fgmain.html

Howerver, I think I read on an other post your current PB is 25m as you are quite new to freediving... am I right?
If this is the case I think you are going into complications for not much using goggles.
If You have trubbles equalizing at those depths, you might want to practice a bite more the technique or get a low volume mask (minima or sphera)
Fluid goggles are usually for verry experienced freedivers who want to win a few more metters to break a record.

Just my two cents

In fact I am practicing 95% in swimming pools ; I am currently using goggles with a cheap nose-clip (a little better than a swimming nose-clip but quite rudimentar) ;

Up to now, I was satisfied with my nose-clip for dynamic apnea but it is not perfectly hermetic and I don't like having water in my nose ; I decided to buy the paradisia ;

once I have bought this expensive toy (29 €), I shall be tempted to use it in constant weight... it seems interesting to me to be able to do Valsalva without a hand on the nose...

I was struck seeing so many people using the paradisia in pool comps, even for static (Guillaume Nery used it without goggles)...

I feel a strong nose-clip will improve my comfort in a swimming pool...

Last week doing a series of duckdives in a swimming pool (3.50 m deep) occasioned a left ear aching... I had done no Valsalva but my usual BTV (I don't know the abbreviation in English) which is OK pushing from the wall... With a paradisia, I could probably have done some hands-free Valsalvas...

Up to now I did vertical diving (sled, CW, FIM) with a mask and I was quite happy with it... although I felt I wasted a little bit of oxygen (my mask was a SEAC Extrem, which is not exactly a "low" volume, but rather a "medium" volume)

In fact the main question is not the goggles, but the nose-clip...

 

[Rémi]

OK, you can try it for constant weight once you have bought the $160 fluid goggles. But I think lots of people will found that a bite funny. However , I would quite like to try too sometime (for the no volume mask, not so much for the hand free thing)
Why don't you use a mask in the pool, would that not be solving the problem? That's what I do, I don't really like goggles. Either they get water in when going fast or you have to tighten them like hell which hurts... I feel so much better with a mask.....

 

[subaquaticus]

Why don't you use a mask in the pool, would that not be solving the problem?

De gustibus et coloribus....non est disputandum.....

in swimming pools I tried medium volume mask, low volume mask, and googles + nose-clip ;

the last is for me the best ; only my nose-clip is not so efficient as before... and I am going to buy a new one...

When I train in swimming pools, I both swim and do apnea... Pushing from the wall with a mask is not so good...

In pool comps, up to naw I have used a mask in static and goggles + nose-clip in dynamic...

I wanted to have a try at using goggles + nose-clip in static comp, but the discomfort occasioned by a little water going into my nostrils prevented me from doing so...

 

[subaquaticus]

I don't really like goggles. Either they get water in when going fast or you have to tighten them like hell which hurts...

Choosing the right pair of googles is a difficult thing...
I work close to a Decathlon with a lot of different models to be tried...

It always took me a long time to find the pair of goggles which suits me...

In particular I always buy goggles where you can adjust the distance between the eyes (nowadays most models don't offer this possibility and if this distance is not perfectly adjusted, then it leaks :waterwork ...)

 

[subaquaticus]

OK, you can try it for constant weight once you have bought the $160 fluid goggles.

If I make the decision to buy such an expensive toy as a 29 € paradisia nose-clip, I will not run like a bull into buying such an expensive pair of goggles ; I think that I will try my brand new nose-clip in the sea in the following way :

1. with nothing covering my eyes, I will try descending holding the cable...

2. I will try opening my eyes in the water...

3. I will try putting on my - cheap - goggles once in water filling them with sea water ;

4. in case of discomfort due to the high salinity of the water, I will try bringing my own liquid in a tiny bottle, the liquid being softer to my eyes...

Up to now, I am unable to tell how important it is to be able to see clearly in the sea for CW...

 

[Rémi]

Up to now, I am unable to tell how important it is to be able to see clearly in the sea for CW...

Not too important I guess, I close my eyes during the descent, however it gives confidence. I would not try without....
I don't see the point in wearing normal goggles, it will be the same as no goggles unless if you use a salin fluid with them which will be less painfull...
Good luck.
When do you plan to try all this?

 

[subaquaticus]

When do you plan to try all this?

ASAP... I have been trying to buy a paradisia for some weeks, but it is complicate in Paris... there is one available in yellow, and I want a blue one...

I think I am getting my blue paradisia once in Nice (in 2 weeks) directly from the producer (who lives in Villefranche)...

One remark about the "pains in the eyes"...

2 years ago, I took my BNSSA where most of the tests are done with no goggles and no nose-clips... (apnea and rescueing)...

I began training with goggles and nose-clip in order not to solve all the problems at the same time...

3 weeks before the exam I took off the goggles and it took some sessions for my eyes to adapt to opening in pool's water...

I think it is a question of adaptation...

 

[pat fish]

hey subaquaticus -
I have a paradisia in blue, you can have mine in exchange for the yellow
. In July I will gonna be be in Marseiille at the Coupe des Calanques. See you there?

Greetz out of Zurich Switzerland
Pat

 

[subaquaticus]

hey subaquaticus -
I have a paradisia in blue, you can have mine in exchange for the yellow
. In July I will gonna be be in Marseiille at the Coupe des Calanques. See you there?

Greetz out of Zurich Switzerland
Pat

I will be at the Calanques' comp...

Is it a marine blue ?

Why do you prefer yellow ?

I have been to Hurghada 2 years ago... and had a pair of yellow rubber fins... I did some snorkeling from the boat...

They warned us to be careful of a special fish (in French a "baliste") supposed to be aggressive... They told us that in particular it attacked yellow things...

Are you a Schwytzertutsch ?

 

[Rémi]

I was wondering why you did not want a yellow nose clip :duh
So it is because you are worried for your nose !!!!
I never thought about that rofl

 

[pat fish]

Great - see you in Marseille and we'll exchange Paradisias. Mine is marine blue and I am looking for a yellow one because of it'd look cool with the silver and yellow Elios suit of mine. Regarding Baliste /Trigger Fish: you can get attacked anyway even if you're camouflaged. If they don't like you... I consider them by the way as the most dangerous fish in the red sea for divers. By the way, Yes I am Swissgerman speaking. But: ich glaubä das isch nöd so guet wämmä das uf deeperblue bruucht, wüls dänn di andere nöd läsä chönd :duh ...

Looking forward to seeing you! Pat

 

[subaquaticus]

By the way regular NaCl 0.9% would do fine. If you wanna save money: mix 1 table spoon (approximately 10g) in 1 litre of drinking water. You'll be fine as well and you can practice filling goggles ( ) without loosing too much money!

just a question of vocabulary...

what is a TABLE SPOON ? the little one or the greater one ?

in French :

the little one = cuiller à café

the greater one = cuiller à soupe

 

[pat fish]

Tu prends just une cuillère à café pour la mise à disposition d' un litre d'eau salée 0.9% (mélange approché - marche bien). ONE SINGLE TABLESPOON FOR ONE LITRE 0.9% SALTWATER (APPROXIMATE MIXTURE - WORKS FINE).
Pat

 

[subaquaticus]

Tu prends just une cuillère à café pour la mise à disposition d' un litre d'eau salée 0.9% (mélange approché - marche bien). ONE SINGLE TABLESPOON FOR ONE LITRE 0.9% SALTWATER (APPROXIMATE MIXTURE - WORKS FINE). Pat

just one question :

cuiller à café = tea spoon ?

cuiller à soupe = table spoon ??

And do you use normal swimming goggles (narrow eyes or large eyes ??)