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Omer Milleniums or sporasub polytechs?
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I can deal with the fit with a sock if need be. My main requirements is a rugged fin that performs adequately and wont break anytime soon as they'll be bounced off rocks regularly.
I'm under the impression that the Milleniums (black/green) are pretty solid in that department.
The Sporasub instinct polys are Sporasubs newest fins so there isn't much being said about those yet, They are guaranteed comfortable tho.
I'm under the impression that the Milleniums (black/green) are pretty solid in that department.
The Sporasub instinct polys are Sporasubs newest fins so there isn't much being said about those yet, They are guaranteed comfortable tho.
the OMER Milleniums in green are comparable to the old style sporasubs (dassaults). I put them side-by-side and tested the flex on the blades. They feel the same. As most of you all know, the dassaults are probably the best all around freediving fin. I've add a pair for 4 years now and they have held up. Its a shame that sporasub discontinued its production.
My wife tried the new sporasubs but did not like them at all and neither did I. The polytecs have a blade that is glued into place so it is much stiffer and changes your stroke pattern. It feels more like a scuba fin.
In addition, at a recent divefit clinic my wife and I attended, Martin Stepanek highly recommends the dassaults (if you can still find them), or the OMER greens as a good second choice.
My wife tried the new sporasubs but did not like them at all and neither did I. The polytecs have a blade that is glued into place so it is much stiffer and changes your stroke pattern. It feels more like a scuba fin.
In addition, at a recent divefit clinic my wife and I attended, Martin Stepanek highly recommends the dassaults (if you can still find them), or the OMER greens as a good second choice.
i have been freediving and spearing with the polytechs for 2 summers they are really rugged we do alot of shore diving around rocks and theres no damage just minor scratchs i wouldent worry about them break at all ive been down to 25M with them and dont have any troubles coming back up i find them to be comfortable i dont always wear socks with them in the pool and they dont bother my feet
the only thing is there the only freediving fin ive ever tried so i might just think there good cause ive never had anything better
the only thing is there the only freediving fin ive ever tried so i might just think there good cause ive never had anything better
Hi Xenopus,
I can get most sporasub fins except the dassaults. I don't trust Their current carbon and composite fins.
The Omer milleniums look good but I can't seem to work out if there is a difference between green and black... all the ads say middle stiffness polypropeline blade. only different one as far as I can tell is the grey winter blade which is soft.
another good thing is the ability to add cool blades like the ICE or pegasso if I'm feeling adventurous.
Think I'm leaning toward the Omer fins.
I can get most sporasub fins except the dassaults. I don't trust Their current carbon and composite fins.
The Omer milleniums look good but I can't seem to work out if there is a difference between green and black... all the ads say middle stiffness polypropeline blade. only different one as far as I can tell is the grey winter blade which is soft.
another good thing is the ability to add cool blades like the ICE or pegasso if I'm feeling adventurous.
Think I'm leaning toward the Omer fins.
Hey Messey,
Is it possible to change the blade on the polys? got Me wondering as Xenopus mentioned they are glued.
Is it possible to change the blade on the polys? got Me wondering as Xenopus mentioned they are glued.
Hi Davie,
The green OMER Millenium fins are comparable to the black sporasub dassault in my opinion. They are similar in stiffness. I have not tried the black OMER Milleniums, but you can buy just the blade once you have the foot pocket. Both the Omer Millenium and the sporasub dassault blades are held in with two screws. For all around freediving, I would recommend the green Omer milleniums.
THe new sporasub polytechs are glued to the foot pocket so you cannot switch the blades. I am not a big fan of these fins, because they feel so different from the Omer Milleniumns and the Sporasub dassaults of which I am use to.
The green OMER Millenium fins are comparable to the black sporasub dassault in my opinion. They are similar in stiffness. I have not tried the black OMER Milleniums, but you can buy just the blade once you have the foot pocket. Both the Omer Millenium and the sporasub dassault blades are held in with two screws. For all around freediving, I would recommend the green Omer milleniums.
THe new sporasub polytechs are glued to the foot pocket so you cannot switch the blades. I am not a big fan of these fins, because they feel so different from the Omer Milleniumns and the Sporasub dassaults of which I am use to.
I think I'll opt for the milleniums. I'll ask what colours they got and what, if any differences there are between them.
in the Imersion Fins the greens are softer and the blacks are stiffer. I would almost expect the same from the Omers. A soft fin will be stiffer in your colder waters. Most of the ratings are based on the med (20deg C??) so a stiff fin will be EXTRA stiff in 10Deg C.
I am thinking of trying the milleniums also.
I am thinking of trying the milleniums also.
So quite possibly the grey winter blades are the best option? as far as I can tell they are the only soft ones in the range, I can still only find ads that say both black and green are middle stiff.
If You try them before Me then let Me know how they are.
If You try them before Me then let Me know how they are.
Would Cressi Gara 3000ld compare to the milleniums? anyone got any thoughts on Beauchat mundial comps or picasso team blacks?
In Omer's, if anything hasn't changed, the green blades are medium stiffness and blacks come either in medium, or called 'Omer Competition', in that case they are hard.
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Yeah I found some ads that mentioned they were both stiffer and thicker. Makes sense as most manufacturers follow that colour coding.
leaves Me with a new problem tho... blacks match My suit but obviously gonna be too hard for a little guy like Me in a fairly cold country.
greens might be right but look stupid.
So I'm kinda hoping Greys are gonna be right for this part of the world.
leaves Me with a new problem tho... blacks match My suit but obviously gonna be too hard for a little guy like Me in a fairly cold country.
greens might be right but look stupid.
So I'm kinda hoping Greys are gonna be right for this part of the world.
As I wrote above, if nothing has changed then you can get black in the same stiffness as green (as long as they aren't called competitions, which are the hard blades).
Hi there,
I have a 2 years experience with the grey Millenniums for spearfishing and I say do not expect them to be anything special.
They have some good and bad features. The good is the softness in surface swimming and their quick elastic return for shallow dives. But on the other end, the softness end out in a poor effectiveness of the kick, and moreover, they don't "snap" enough when you surface from deeper dives. If you dive 20 meters as you said, you might want your fins to be more thrusty than the Grey Millenniums.
For the cold water thing, staying in the field of the Omer Millennium "family", there are two valuable forum members (Fondueset and Jon) who dive 365 days/year in cold Lake Michigan (not the Maldives!) and they gave a very good feedback about the Millennium Runners (quite a cheap option) and the Omer Ice (more expensive).
hope this helps
I have a 2 years experience with the grey Millenniums for spearfishing and I say do not expect them to be anything special.
They have some good and bad features. The good is the softness in surface swimming and their quick elastic return for shallow dives. But on the other end, the softness end out in a poor effectiveness of the kick, and moreover, they don't "snap" enough when you surface from deeper dives. If you dive 20 meters as you said, you might want your fins to be more thrusty than the Grey Millenniums.
For the cold water thing, staying in the field of the Omer Millennium "family", there are two valuable forum members (Fondueset and Jon) who dive 365 days/year in cold Lake Michigan (not the Maldives!) and they gave a very good feedback about the Millennium Runners (quite a cheap option) and the Omer Ice (more expensive).
hope this helps
Spaghetti,
Great answer. I'm Still a bit indecisive tho as I'm only weighing in at 63kg and the water is cold (especially at depth) here and freezes on the surface in winter.
I run quite a bit so My legs aren't exactly weak but if I pick the wrong fins it could be constant swollen ankles.
I hear the runners are super stiff and reccomended for big guys with powerful legs... I doubt I'm in that category. I think its a straight toss up between the middle stiff or winter milleniums.
I'm mostly in 10M or less and only occasionally do a wall dive to 17M and can get by with a short fin so I don't really need a super powerful fin... any improvement is a bonus.
I'll ask the store about the milleniums in stock tomorrow and see if they got a clue.
Thanks for the input!
Great answer. I'm Still a bit indecisive tho as I'm only weighing in at 63kg and the water is cold (especially at depth) here and freezes on the surface in winter.
I run quite a bit so My legs aren't exactly weak but if I pick the wrong fins it could be constant swollen ankles.
I hear the runners are super stiff and reccomended for big guys with powerful legs... I doubt I'm in that category. I think its a straight toss up between the middle stiff or winter milleniums.
I'm mostly in 10M or less and only occasionally do a wall dive to 17M and can get by with a short fin so I don't really need a super powerful fin... any improvement is a bonus.
I'll ask the store about the milleniums in stock tomorrow and see if they got a clue.
Thanks for the input!
Thanks all for the input. I ordered a set of Millenium winter Greys and I'll see how they go through the winter.
If I need more oomph when the sun returns and My ankles can handle it then I'll get Me some new blades when the time comes. The shop stocks Ice, runners, pegasso and bat 30s most of which would probably break My ankles in winter but We'll see about those later.
If I need more oomph when the sun returns and My ankles can handle it then I'll get Me some new blades when the time comes. The shop stocks Ice, runners, pegasso and bat 30s most of which would probably break My ankles in winter but We'll see about those later.
Hi Davie,
Did you get your hands on these:
Millenium runner OMER Fins Fins United Kingdom Dive Scuba store .com
OMER, MILLENIUM RUNNER
If so how did they compare stiffness wise to the rest? I dive in 12 deg C water to 25M and my imersion greens are starting to feel too soft.
Did you get your hands on these:
Millenium runner OMER Fins Fins United Kingdom Dive Scuba store .com
OMER, MILLENIUM RUNNER
If so how did they compare stiffness wise to the rest? I dive in 12 deg C water to 25M and my imersion greens are starting to feel too soft.