does someone knows something about freediving and pregnancy? of course i know that a max dive or max stativ isn´t to good. what is allowed and what should i avoid?
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pregnancy and freediving
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Yes O2 is very important for your babe and you .. i wish i would have helped you . but remember that sytem in you not working one person..working two person.. my idea it will be harmfull holding your breath but, there is a -but-
it will be helpful soft breath hold ..not sure..
it will be helpful soft breath hold ..not sure..
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Common doctor will know very little about physiological changes during freediving, so am not sure if it makes any sense asking one. Perhaps consulting a freediving specialist, or posting the question at the World Freediving Medical Association would be better.
If you google up the topic, you find plenty links about sleep apnea during pregnancy: Google It is hard to tell whether it is applicable to freediving apnea too, because the physiological reactions are not completely identical in both cases.
You can also google diving and pregnancy - one of important risks is the decompression - the fetus appears to be much more sensitive for possible harm. Although DCS is of a lesser risk for common freediving (except of deep diving, or repetitive diving with short surface intervals), it may be still harmful for the fetus.
EDIT: also strong diaphragmatic contractions during apnea may possibly pose an additional risk for the fetus
Another good topic to research is pregnancy at ama divers. I found that they allegedly worked year-round and often through pregnancy. It is interesting to know, but it does not mean that the diving did not cause any harm.
If you google up the topic, you find plenty links about sleep apnea during pregnancy: Google It is hard to tell whether it is applicable to freediving apnea too, because the physiological reactions are not completely identical in both cases.
You can also google diving and pregnancy - one of important risks is the decompression - the fetus appears to be much more sensitive for possible harm. Although DCS is of a lesser risk for common freediving (except of deep diving, or repetitive diving with short surface intervals), it may be still harmful for the fetus.
EDIT: also strong diaphragmatic contractions during apnea may possibly pose an additional risk for the fetus
Another good topic to research is pregnancy at ama divers. I found that they allegedly worked year-round and often through pregnancy. It is interesting to know, but it does not mean that the diving did not cause any harm.
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I agree with what Trux said above,AFAIK there is little or no solid information on this subject in relation to freediving or scuba as any tests would be unethical. Ama divers aside as they may have physiological adaptations from generations before them and what works for them may not work for others. If in doubt stay out my 2 cent in any case. I don't think any doctor would give any advise other than don't do it.
I am male so the above is very easy for me to say but I am sure there are other freediving mothers out there that could advise.
Congratulations in any case
I am male so the above is very easy for me to say but I am sure there are other freediving mothers out there that could advise.
Congratulations in any case
thanks folks for your posts,
i think i will do little dives without diaphragma contractions. not for taining, but for not forgetting the amazing feeling of freediving:inlove
i think i will do little dives without diaphragma contractions. not for taining, but for not forgetting the amazing feeling of freediving:inlove
Hi guys,
I think you need to very cautious about this. Diving while early in first trimester such as the example of MT Solomon is very different from later in pregnancy. There are hormonal changes in the first weeks of pregnancy, but no great changes in the physiology of the cardiovascular system. The cardiovascular changes as the pregnancy progresses are what is concerning for adding freediving to the equation. There is a lot of information about freediving physiology and dramatic swings in various central basic life regulating mechanisms including heart rate, blood pressure, cardiac output, gas exchange, lung volume, peripheral vasoconstriction etc. Here is a quick list of changes in physiology that are associated with pregnancy that may conflict or impact freediving.
Physiologic changes in pregnancy
Cardiovascular and hematologic:
- Increased heart rate
- Increased cardiac output
- Increased blood volume
- increased blood pressure due to increased peripheral vascular resistance
- Potentially altered venous return to the heart - due to compression of the enlarging uterus on the inferior vena cava and pelvic veins (this is why pregnant women get hemorrhoids and leg edema more commonly from increased venous pressures)
- Hypercoagulable state - increased risk of deep vein thrombosis and pulmonary embolism
Respiratory:
- Increased oxygen requirement
- Elevated diaphragm from compression of the uterus and abdominal contents
- Increased functional residual capacity of the lungs
- Increased minute ventilation
- Increased C02 sensitivity due to progesterone
Gastrointestinal:
- Increased gastroesophageal reflux due to intra-abdominal pressure and effects of progesterone
- Delayed gastric emptying after meals and slowed gut motility from progesterone
Endocrine:
- Increased basal metabolic rate with thyroid gland enlargement and increased thyroxine hormone production
- Adrenal gland produces more cortisol throughout pregnancy
Likely very little research in the area of pregnancy and freediving has been done, but I think manipulating an already compensating cardiovascular system in a pregnant female (particularly as the pregnancy progresses) could potentially have detrimental consequences for the baby or mother.
lee
I think you need to very cautious about this. Diving while early in first trimester such as the example of MT Solomon is very different from later in pregnancy. There are hormonal changes in the first weeks of pregnancy, but no great changes in the physiology of the cardiovascular system. The cardiovascular changes as the pregnancy progresses are what is concerning for adding freediving to the equation. There is a lot of information about freediving physiology and dramatic swings in various central basic life regulating mechanisms including heart rate, blood pressure, cardiac output, gas exchange, lung volume, peripheral vasoconstriction etc. Here is a quick list of changes in physiology that are associated with pregnancy that may conflict or impact freediving.
Physiologic changes in pregnancy
Cardiovascular and hematologic:
- Increased heart rate
- Increased cardiac output
- Increased blood volume
- increased blood pressure due to increased peripheral vascular resistance
- Potentially altered venous return to the heart - due to compression of the enlarging uterus on the inferior vena cava and pelvic veins (this is why pregnant women get hemorrhoids and leg edema more commonly from increased venous pressures)
- Hypercoagulable state - increased risk of deep vein thrombosis and pulmonary embolism
Respiratory:
- Increased oxygen requirement
- Elevated diaphragm from compression of the uterus and abdominal contents
- Increased functional residual capacity of the lungs
- Increased minute ventilation
- Increased C02 sensitivity due to progesterone
Gastrointestinal:
- Increased gastroesophageal reflux due to intra-abdominal pressure and effects of progesterone
- Delayed gastric emptying after meals and slowed gut motility from progesterone
Endocrine:
- Increased basal metabolic rate with thyroid gland enlargement and increased thyroxine hormone production
- Adrenal gland produces more cortisol throughout pregnancy
Likely very little research in the area of pregnancy and freediving has been done, but I think manipulating an already compensating cardiovascular system in a pregnant female (particularly as the pregnancy progresses) could potentially have detrimental consequences for the baby or mother.
lee
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I might be a bit late but are you already pregnant or did i misunderstand the question? rofl
But in all honesty whatever you hear from this forum, just speak to a Doctor and get an expert opinion, there may be some people got away with it but make your own mind up. Keep safe xx.
Don't do anything you would regret.
Good luck hope it goes well
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you didn`t misunderstand.i am pregnant and just on the beginning (7th week).
thanks a lot for your good wishes!
thanks a lot for your good wishes!
Hi Zebrafishle
Congrats on your pregnancy!
MT Solomons apparently did 50 metre dives when she was 6 months pregnant and she has a healthy boy.
My OW Scuba instructor taught courses and dived until 10 metres until she was 6 months pregnant. The only reason she stopped was that it got too uncomfortable wearing the kit. She also had a very healthy boy.
There are lots of advisories concerning pregnancy and diving, I for one, if I was ever lucky to get pregnant would not stop diving, I would just dive conservatively and keep healthy. Good luck
Congrats on your pregnancy!
MT Solomons apparently did 50 metre dives when she was 6 months pregnant and she has a healthy boy.
My OW Scuba instructor taught courses and dived until 10 metres until she was 6 months pregnant. The only reason she stopped was that it got too uncomfortable wearing the kit. She also had a very healthy boy.
There are lots of advisories concerning pregnancy and diving, I for one, if I was ever lucky to get pregnant would not stop diving, I would just dive conservatively and keep healthy. Good luck
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after reading the post from feign, i am even not happy to be pregnant ;-)
it sounds fantastic what will happen to me and body ;-)
it sounds fantastic what will happen to me and body ;-)
Go and enjoy it woman.
My best friend (age 42) just had her first baby. 3 months down the line she has lost all her baby weight and looks fab. So does the baby :inlove Let us know how you get on with diving. My mum swam for miles during her whole pregnancy with me and still has her figure at the age of 70. The water will do you good
Here's the baby, with me, only 4 days old
My best friend (age 42) just had her first baby. 3 months down the line she has lost all her baby weight and looks fab. So does the baby :inlove Let us know how you get on with diving. My mum swam for miles during her whole pregnancy with me and still has her figure at the age of 70. The water will do you good
Here's the baby, with me, only 4 days old
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although women freedove before while pregnant and the baby survived, i cant think of that as the correct option..i am no expert by any means, but i think during pregnancy its better to focus on your child and put stuff on hold until you have a healthy delivery..doesnt seem like a justified risk.. at this stage in your life i think some things matters more then others and it will only be a few more weeks and you will be unable to dive anyways, so is it really worth it?
I am sorry to come off strong on this issue, it is not my intent to be judgemental in any way...i just feel strongly about this issue, because me and my wife were unlucky a couple of times in the past when the pregnancy didnt go through all the way..seems that this is increased over the last few years, stuff like pollution, stress in the average person's life, etc etc.. have become contributors, you really dont need another risk factor in there...besides if i recall from my divemaster days, pregnant women werent alloewed to take the scuba course, dont know if this changed now..i know scuba and freediving are different but im just saying it could be an indication..
Once you have a child your world changes, its a great great feeling..suddenly life has an additional whole new meaning to you...dont risk that for a few more weeks of diving..
congrats on your pregnancy...wish you the best and once again apologies if my message here is a bit strong..
cheers
I am sorry to come off strong on this issue, it is not my intent to be judgemental in any way...i just feel strongly about this issue, because me and my wife were unlucky a couple of times in the past when the pregnancy didnt go through all the way..seems that this is increased over the last few years, stuff like pollution, stress in the average person's life, etc etc.. have become contributors, you really dont need another risk factor in there...besides if i recall from my divemaster days, pregnant women werent alloewed to take the scuba course, dont know if this changed now..i know scuba and freediving are different but im just saying it could be an indication..
Once you have a child your world changes, its a great great feeling..suddenly life has an additional whole new meaning to you...dont risk that for a few more weeks of diving..
congrats on your pregnancy...wish you the best and once again apologies if my message here is a bit strong..
cheers
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I wouldn't if I were you because the lack of oxygen could potentially be harmful for the baby and if you go deep enough then the pressure definately would be.