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Preparing for my first time Spearfishing (freshwater)

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SifuMax

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Hey guys, new member, I've been lurking for a little bit, really a great forum, I've learned a lot, the information and experience is appreciated.

I've never gone spearfishing before, but I used to scuba dive and snorkel a fair amount. Been a few years though and I'm certainly out of practice.

In a few weeks, my family and I (my dad, my wife and our two kids) will be heading up to the Upper Peninsula of Michigan to my great uncles cabin. It's a beautiful area, right on a mid sized lake. My dad has been going there since he was a kid, his grandpa built it, and when I was a kid we were there every summer. Not great visibility but on calm days I think it should work just fine. The deepest point is 18 feet, but it's about a half mile wide by about 1.5 miles long, so plenty of places to go.

I was looking on the Michigan DNR website and found that it's legal to spearfish for catfish. I've seen that it's legal to spearfish for things like carp, but I have no intention to eat carp, but catfish is tasty and spearguns are cool. Armed with that logic, I eventually talked my wife into letting me buy a speargun.

My initial plan was to just buy a polespear and keep it simple, but the reasonably priced ones are all one piece. It would be quite a pain to transport a 7' pole in the middle of my car for a 12 hour drive. The ones that break into sections cost more than an entry level speargun. Also spearguns are cool.

So on Friday I will be purchasing the Persistent Intro 90 off of Amazon. I realize this is not a great brand or a great gun, but for my purposes and considering how much of a rarity it will be that I'll be able to use it, it should work great. Plus if I get really into it, I can always upgrade.

So I've gathered all my gear, my wetsuit still fits (quite happy about that), sharpened the dive knife and I'm getting real excited now. I know there's catfish on the lake and I haven't got to go snorkeling in forever. Should be a great time.

Next on my to do list is to make a dive flag float. I'll post some pictures, got a few good ideas (at least in my mind they're good ideas) and I'll start building tonight. I had started and nearly finished one before I realized that I should probably look into the Michigan state regs on dive flags and the one I started wasn't nearly big enough, so it's scrapped and I'll be doing it right this time.

I didn't realize how poor my breath hold abilities have gone so I've started training those also. Right now I'm at 45 seconds, but I bought an Apnea trainer app and an iHoldBreath app for my phone yesterday and I've started my training, really interested to see where I can get to in a month. Those apps are pretty cool for anyone interested, the iHoldBreath one is just O2/CO2 tables (which I first heard of on this forum) but you can adjust them and keep track of PB times. the apnea trainer is interesting, it's just breathing patterns, but the reviews were good and they swear by the science behind it. I'll be doing both and I think the combination of the two techniques should really help me improve my time.

Like I said, thanks for all the free info, looking forward to getting in the water!
 
makospearguns.com has an inexpensive 3-piece travel polespear that should work for catfish.
 
I appreciate the link, I hadn't seen that polespear.

I like the speargun still because it comes with the flopper tip which strikes me as a more secure/humane way of harvesting. Some of the reading I've done on other forums led me to believe that the multiple pronged tips wouldn't be right for catfish and would make it easy for them to get off the tip.

Have you done any spearing for catfish?

Again, thanks.

- Max
 
I got a lot of work done on the dive flag float last night, will post pics when it's done. Most of the night was taken up with the easy bake oven and the little girl, otherwise I imagine I'd be done, but totally worth it

Been doing a lot of reading on here about breath holding techniques, and oh dear crap there are a lot of different schools of thought. I'm keeping it pretty simple, no hyperventilation, naturally full lung, not forcing it in so I'm uncomfortable. With just a few days of training, I've upped my PB by 15 seconds and it's definitely getting easier. Having those apps on my phone has been quite helpful, I'm actually training while writting this. My goal is really just to get up to 2 - 2:30 PB, I figure that would give me plenty of safe time between dives.

Will try to post a finished pic of my dive flag float tomorrow.

24 days and counting down!
 
I bought my speargun just now and a new dive light. Pretty excited about that. Should be here next week. Got to figure out how to attach the light to the gun, but that shouldn't be too hard, just got to get a look at the hardware and make sure I don't interefere with anything.

Here's a picture (not the best quality picture) of my dive flag buoy. It's just a milk jug with some concrete in the bottom, with a threaded rod stuck in (I welded some scrap to the bottom of the rod to keep it from loosening). Then a couple yard sign holders welded to a plate with a welded on nut. So I can disassemble it and travel easily. The sign itself is just that corrugated plastic stuff, spray painted as a dive sign, exceeds Michigan state requirements. I'll have 25 feet of paracord tied on to the milk jug handle, then tied to the butt of the gun and it should be solid.

For the cost ($0) I'm pretty happy with it, and I tested it without the flag and it floated wonderfully, still need to test it with the flag, but it wasn't dry at the time.

We'll see how it works. I still need to repaint where I had the sign holders placed incorrectly and some paint rubbed off, but that's easy.

With just a week of training, I've almost doubled my personal best for breath holding, I'm up to 1:20, reading around on this forum I realize how crappy that is, but it's solid improvement from where I was.

22 Days and not only can I try out some spear fishing, but I actually get to go on vacation! Been forever, and with 2 sometimes 3 jobs I'm really, really looking forward to it, need the quiet time, going to be amazing.
 

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Sweet man! I'm in the same boat you are.... After days of researching I finally ordered all my gear... Personally, I decided to go the pole spear route over a gun... Most everybody I talked to recommended this for starting out as it really hones your hunting skills... Because of visibility concerns I went with a really short one that packs a hell of a punch... It was only 30 bucks on Amazon, and may be worth adding to your arsenal.... I also found a hell of a deal on a floatboard, which I think is going to come in real handy since I'll be starting all my adventures from the dock, and swimming to various holes... Good luck buddy, and happy spearing!!

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That's awesome man. That's a cool looking polespear. What are you hunting for?

I read the same things regarding polespear building fundamental skills, but it's going to be pretty rare that I get to go out so I'm trying to give myself the most advantage I can so I'll just be building my skills with a speargun.

Plus it's just cool, I can't get past the awesome factor. I'm looking forward to target shooting in the water just as much as I am looking forward to finding a catfish. I also trust the flopper tip more than the multiple prongs, but I don't have any empirical evidence to back that up.

Have fun and good luck.
 
Be safe out there gents.

Always smart to have a trained safety / buddy out there with you.

You'll probably be overly excited the first time and heart will be racing, but blackout is always a concern, either by running out of O2 or SWB (Shallow Water Blackout).

Always carry a sharp, accessible knife, in case you get tangled / caught in something.

Have fun and post pics!
 
I won't be alone, but I appreciate the concern.

I'm trying to decide which leg to put my knife on (which I spent a good amount of time sharpening and it's shaving hair now), with scuba and snorkeling I always had it on my right leg because I'm right hand dominant and I wasn't carrying anything. But now, I'll be holding the speargun with my right. So do I put it on my left leg and use my non-dominant hand to draw so I can keep the spear in my right, or do I put it on my right but have to take the time to either drop the speargun or switch hands...

I realize I'm overthinking it, but I'm bored at work.... and tool location is important.

What do you experienced guys do? Draw the knife with your non-dominant hand or switch the speargun to the other hand and draw with your dominant hand?
 
Thanks for the warning Apneaddict.... Unfortunately, that's not an option at this point... Though I'm hoping some of my neighbors will wonder what the hell I'm doing and give it a whirl... I've been swimming solo in this lake for years and surfing/bodysurfing by myself since I was a little kid... I carry a knife when I swim, and the practice will continue.... If this is the water activity that kills me than so be it...

Sifumax - We have a horrible problem with carp keeping the bass and crappie population down here, so that will be my main target.... I'll be hunting for catfish as well..... the deepest part of the lake is 25'.....
 
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I'm no expert, but personally I'd just drop the speargun(it's tied off to the buoy anyway) and use my dominant hand.... When swimming and snorkeling I've always kept my knife on the inside of my left thigh(opposite my dominant right hand)
 
Well, speargun should arrive on Wednesday, dive light should be in a day or so after that, but won't have any time to mess around with it because I'll be in Kentucky all weekend but I'll have next week to play with it.

18 days left until we head out of town, going to be a long 2 and a half weeks.

Still training with the breath hold apps, no major improvements since last week, interested to see what I can get to with another 5 days of training.
 
Speargun and flashlight came in last night, everything appears to be in working order, need to file a burr off the tip, but that's not a big deal. Didn't have a chance to mess with it too much and I won't until next week due to being out of town. Didn't come with a manual or anything which is kind of annoying, but that's ok.

Been reading the rigging thread and I think I'll be able to figure it out. Looking forward to getting to sit down and mess with it. Also very bright light for the price, pretty happy with it, these new fangled LEDs are awesome, been carrying one in my pocket for 6 months (not a dive light, just a regular one) and it's the best and brightest flashlight I've ever owned, rugged and doesn't use too much energy so the sinlge AA lasts for a long time, and I got it for $8, I'll take that.

Anyway, got my PB static time up to 1:45, I've added a whole minute after training for just about two weeks, that's awesome. Getting closer to my goal of 2:30, of course it'd be nice to get past that, but we'll see.

16 days to go!
 
Finally got the speargun all rigged up, the cord they sent seemed rather cheap and thin, so I used paracord, had to drill the hole in the spear out just a little.

Here is the attachement to the spear, all my knots are figure 8 follow throughs.
 

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Here is the muzzle wrap, I'm fairly sure this is correct, but I'm not 100%, but the cord clears easily when I pull the spear out.
 

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Now here I had to modify it again, the paracord is too wide and easily slips off the retainer hook, I tried with the small cord they sent and it stays on, but I didn't want to use that crappy cord, so I threw in a rubber washer, seems tough enough and has just the right amount of grab, makes me a lot more confident that it's not going to slip off when I don't want it to.
 

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And finally connected to the rubber tie down strap and connected to the gun.
 

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This is where I'm attaching the gun to the float, it's 25' of line that will go on to a carabiner on the float.
 

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