Pretty creepy

[jome]

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15739502-13762,00.html

Very cool, but for some reason gives me the creeps

Not much to do with diving, except if you have good imagination...

 

[roy_nexus_6]

creepy indeed.
will be interesting to hear what all of the varios mystics out there think about this.

 

[efattah]

Interesting article. In my opinion, it seems clear that the dogs were never dead in the first place. The cells in the body, cooled down, remain alive. If the cells were dead, then the dog were somehow revived, then it would be a real zombie!

In this case, the dogs didn't even suffer any visible brain damage; again, this is because the cool temperature preserved brain cells.

Real zombies would have pretty 'dead' brains such as in the movie 'Resident Evil.'

 

[island_sands]

Interesting article. In my opinion, it seems clear that the dogs were never dead in the first place. The cells in the body, cooled down, remain alive. If the cells were dead, then the dog were somehow revived, then it would be a real zombie!

In this case, the dogs didn't even suffer any visible brain damage; again, this is because the cool temperature preserved brain cells.

Real zombies would have pretty 'dead' brains such as in the movie 'Resident Evil.'

apparently real zombies used to eat the toxins from puffer fish to get into that zombie trance. :yack

 

[jome]

Yeah, I thought the "Zombie" label was unnecessarily sensationalist. But the idea of just brining dogs (or humans) to such a level of hibernation alone is creepy...And of course, very useful. I'm sure if this somedays is feasible for general use, it will take surgery into a whole new level of sophistication...

 

[efattah]

During my freediving research, I have read many papers/books on cryogenics & suspended animation. It is extremely fascinating, and the field is much farther along than most people realize.

The general problem when freezing someone is that the ice crystals break the cell walls, killing the cells.

Therefore, the problem is to freeze the person without the creation of ice crystals, or, freeze them without creating big ice crystals.

Some animals such as frogs have natural antifreeze that allows them to be cooled to below zero without the formation of crystals, or, without the formation of large crystals.

Glycerol is a naturally occurring sugar which can be purchased at most health food stores (used by athletes to increase hydration). Glycerol is often injected into an animal before freezing it, because it acts as a safe antifreeze.

By using various anti-freeze compounds, some small animals (mice, rats, rabbits) have been frozen for weeks, and then revived, but with significant damage to brain & organs. They usually don't survive long once revived.

 

[Alison]

apparently real zombies used to eat the toxins from puffer fish to get into that zombie trance. :yack

Or they could overwinter in my village to get the same affect! :ban

 

[DeepThought]

Sit Ubu sit, -HEY LET GO OF MY BRAIN AHAHHAH!!!!!!!

I've seen that link just yesterday as well, ran a few necessary zombie jokes around.

I wonder if a small treatment with hydrogen sulfide might help before freezing, it's been known to take part in hibernation in some organisms...
Reducing metabolism before freezing will probably help to reduce damage.

By the way, hydrogen sulfide might be of more use to freedivers than replacing one's blood with cold saline. Anyone care to research?
Will probably be only useful for statics though.

 

[DeepThought]

Or they could overwinter in my village to get the same affect! :ban

Which reminds me, any of you have seen 'Shaun of the Dead'? I'm not a fan of zombie movies but this one's hilarious... even satirical....

 

[DeepThought]

Did not intend to make this a zombie forum, but since I saw this yesterday as well...
http://www.lookatentertainment.com/v/v-1212.htm
It's a little long, and seems bogus to me, but what do I know.

 

[Ntrik]

Michael nice one!! Seems totally bogus to me as well. Otherwise what can I say its a lawyers goldmine... damage claims for assault and nervous shock guaranteed..

 

[monofin_diva]

surprisingly interesting article.. a bit "1984" for me.. but i live in hollywood.. i've seen it all

i did like the pic of the dog..LOL was that the actual dog they brought back i wonder. he looks a bit pissed, having been just snatched back from the white lights and pearly gates..

 

[bdurrett]

surprisingly interesting article.. a bit "1984" for me.. but i live in hollywood.. i've seen it all

i did like the pic of the dog..LOL was that the actual dog they brought back i wonder. he looks a bit pissed, having been just snatched back from the white lights and pearly gates..

I dunno Fin....

The picture that they used seems MUCH more like a wolf than a dog based on the fur, etc. AND it is a wolf with a seriously P. O.' d 'tude! Also notice the snow/ice in the fur. That photo was NOT taken in a lab and in order to do the Zap and give 100% O2, I would assume that you would want to be in a lab or somewhere a bit more controlled.

Of course, if I were suddenly ripped out of someplace with golden fire hydrants on every corner and enough mail carriers to last a lifetime and I were a dog, I might be a tad upset myself.... rofl

 

[monofin_diva]

lol golden fire hydrants that's cute. my dog doesn't have a mailman phobia.. he hates people in wheel chairs.. bicycles or basically anything on wheels. lol so my dogs heaven would be filled with people in wheelchairs and cyclists.

the dog on the pic did look wolfish, either way it's a brain numbingly bizarre story.