haven't been on here for awhile, nor training for static or anything really. i remeber i could get a 5 minute static, but is that good? i hear people getting like 6 minutes +... have you guys been training for a long time? i think i've only been training for like hard-ish for like 3-4 months. in the first few months i could hit the 5 minute mark, but ever since then.. i can't get a PB. i hardly can get 5 mintues nowadays.. but i did find that that i can get 4 minutes relitivily easy, but it's werid beacuse i haven't been training. do you think your c02 tolarance slowly goes down if you're idle in breath holding?
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question about static - how good am i?
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Sounds like "static burnout"
In the beginning, progress is fast - there is so many things you can improve. You make leaps in minutes and set a pb every time you try.
But you must understand, it slows down eventually and you reach a sort of a turning point.
There seem to be 2 kinds of people. Those who at this point decide "nah, static is not my thing, I just suck at it, I'm not talented blah blah" and stop (=burnout). Then there are those who go "wait...This can't be it?!? I've been training sporadic for a couple of months, no way have I reached my limits...In other sports, people train daily for years and still don't reach their peak"
What I suggest you do is this:
-Don't set your self up to break your pb every time
-Instead set your self a target that you will never fail. It has to be easy enough for you not to EVER fail it. Let's say 4:00 from looking at your results
-When you have reached 4:00 for say, 5 times in a row, make a small increase. 5 or 10 sec max.
-Then keep repeating that 4:05 for 5 times in a row. If you fail to reach it even once, you "reset the counter".
It's a little mind game that teaches you persistence, confidence and will power.
Think of it this way. A single pb is meaningless, if you can't repeat it. It's a fluke, a lucky day. That's no way to train...It becomes a "result" after you can reliably repeat it. Your pb isn't your level, the time you can do every time is.
So instead of trying to set a pb every time, aim at making your results consistent and inch them up that way. If one day you're feeling extra good, then set your pb, but don't be obsessed about them.
And one day, you will notice how your "every time" target is suddenly at 5 minutes and if you want you can push to 5:30 almost every time...
And yes, 5 minutes is a very decent time...But I'm sure you can do more than that...
In the beginning, progress is fast - there is so many things you can improve. You make leaps in minutes and set a pb every time you try.
But you must understand, it slows down eventually and you reach a sort of a turning point.
There seem to be 2 kinds of people. Those who at this point decide "nah, static is not my thing, I just suck at it, I'm not talented blah blah" and stop (=burnout). Then there are those who go "wait...This can't be it?!? I've been training sporadic for a couple of months, no way have I reached my limits...In other sports, people train daily for years and still don't reach their peak"
What I suggest you do is this:
-Don't set your self up to break your pb every time
-Instead set your self a target that you will never fail. It has to be easy enough for you not to EVER fail it. Let's say 4:00 from looking at your results
-When you have reached 4:00 for say, 5 times in a row, make a small increase. 5 or 10 sec max.
-Then keep repeating that 4:05 for 5 times in a row. If you fail to reach it even once, you "reset the counter".
It's a little mind game that teaches you persistence, confidence and will power.
Think of it this way. A single pb is meaningless, if you can't repeat it. It's a fluke, a lucky day. That's no way to train...It becomes a "result" after you can reliably repeat it. Your pb isn't your level, the time you can do every time is.
So instead of trying to set a pb every time, aim at making your results consistent and inch them up that way. If one day you're feeling extra good, then set your pb, but don't be obsessed about them.
And one day, you will notice how your "every time" target is suddenly at 5 minutes and if you want you can push to 5:30 almost every time...
And yes, 5 minutes is a very decent time...But I'm sure you can do more than that...
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"What really matters though is bottom time." said Colt.45
"Think of it this way. A single pb is meaningless, if you can't repeat it. It's a fluke, a lucky day. That's no way to train...It becomes a "result" after you can reliably repeat it. Your pb isn't your level, the time you can do every time is." said Jome.
Thats it, in a nutshell. 2 of the wisest things I've read on this forum!!
I got thru varying degrees of unhappiness and dissapointment with my statics, but at the end of the day, I only let my bottom time in the actual blue stuff determine my level of happiness or concern.
And, as Jome said, your 'continuous avaerage' is your level of static, not a once-off hold which is off the scale for you...although it's only human to feel very excited about those one-off achievements.
I personally have stopped counting seconds completely. I just strive to find those days that everything feels perfect, and in harmony. Your mood is great, you have great energy levels, your mind is clear and concise, and nothing can get you down. We all know those days. On those days, you will do great statics, and if you are lucky enough to be diving, the ocean will feel perfect. Rather than chase the clock, try to find the factors that lead to the way you feel on these days, and make them habits. Then, the times, the statics, the depths and your synergy with the water will take care of it'self.
Dive safe
Jeff
"Think of it this way. A single pb is meaningless, if you can't repeat it. It's a fluke, a lucky day. That's no way to train...It becomes a "result" after you can reliably repeat it. Your pb isn't your level, the time you can do every time is." said Jome.
Thats it, in a nutshell. 2 of the wisest things I've read on this forum!!
I got thru varying degrees of unhappiness and dissapointment with my statics, but at the end of the day, I only let my bottom time in the actual blue stuff determine my level of happiness or concern.
And, as Jome said, your 'continuous avaerage' is your level of static, not a once-off hold which is off the scale for you...although it's only human to feel very excited about those one-off achievements.
I personally have stopped counting seconds completely. I just strive to find those days that everything feels perfect, and in harmony. Your mood is great, you have great energy levels, your mind is clear and concise, and nothing can get you down. We all know those days. On those days, you will do great statics, and if you are lucky enough to be diving, the ocean will feel perfect. Rather than chase the clock, try to find the factors that lead to the way you feel on these days, and make them habits. Then, the times, the statics, the depths and your synergy with the water will take care of it'self.
Dive safe
Jeff
"wait...This can't be it?!? I've been training sporadic for a couple of months, no way have I reached my limits...In other sports, people train daily for years and still don't reach their peak"
i'm more or less one of those people, i think. ah...consistent... yeah, i'm never too good at that with anything, lol.. i better work on that.
i'm thinking the begining of next month ill have a constent training program so that should help.............. :-D
k, well thanks for all your input, it helps a lot!
i'm more or less one of those people, i think. ah...consistent... yeah, i'm never too good at that with anything, lol.. i better work on that.
i'm thinking the begining of next month ill have a constent training program so that should help.............. :-D
k, well thanks for all your input, it helps a lot!
Last summer I hit a (dry) BP of 5:02, and consistantly i did around 4:20-30. These days I'm having a hard time passing 3:00, and not too keen on even giving it a try.. Nevertheless, there is no doubt, I'm in a better shape now: I'm very satisfied with my pool practice, and I do respectable exhale tables.
My problem these days seems to be that fully inflating my lungs, makes me feel very uneasy - especially if I'm not entering a higher pressure after inhaling. And for that reason in the pool I often dive on a partial inhale or a relaxed exhale.
Perhaps it's time to put some work into my static again? As Jome describes: Just gradually building a decent time again..
My problem these days seems to be that fully inflating my lungs, makes me feel very uneasy - especially if I'm not entering a higher pressure after inhaling. And for that reason in the pool I often dive on a partial inhale or a relaxed exhale.
Perhaps it's time to put some work into my static again? As Jome describes: Just gradually building a decent time again..