where do you draw the line between beginners and advanced in freediving?
i mean
static
dinamic
depth...?
i mean
static
dinamic
depth...?
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That opinion may differ strongly, but if you want some official values, then the AIDA Freediver Level ranking may help:
AIDA * - 8m CWT - 1'15" STA - 25m DYN
AIDA ** - 16m CWT - 2'STA - 40m DYN
AIDA *** - 24m CWT - 2'45" STA - 55m DYN
AIDA **** - 32m CWT - 3'30" STA - 70m DYN
AIDA * - 8m CWT - 1'15" STA - 25m DYN
AIDA ** - 16m CWT - 2'STA - 40m DYN
AIDA *** - 24m CWT - 2'45" STA - 55m DYN
AIDA **** - 32m CWT - 3'30" STA - 70m DYN
It's a really good question vali and one worth asking. As a spearo who uses freediving as a means to an end I'm not in the least bit qualified to answer. I've always found it difficult to distinguish between the advanced freedivers and those who merely believe they are.
I have also seen 3 star freedivers who cant dive past 20 metres... they must have done the depth once to qualify for the rating but possibly don't practice enough to keep the same level. its like Scuba, you can get up to any level but if you dont practise your skills you lose the knack.
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Probably above the four stars
Frankly, I think everyone draws the line just below his own level
It would be logical to assume that there is NO "in between" as far as AIDA is concerned...You either ARE are you ARE NOT a one, two, three or four star freediver.
To me it says you MUST be able to complete or beat in "constant weight" all the fore-metioned categories in depth, static and dynamic on any level to make it to the next level or "star" category of "CWT freediving"...
Makes PERFECT sense to me.
:waveIsland Sands also made a good point though: She wrote - Quote: "I have also seen 3 star freedivers who cant dive past 20 metres... they must have done the depth once to qualify for the rating but possibly don't practice enough to keep the same level." :head
:waveSanso ALSO has made a good point! "It's not about the numbers".
Freediving for alot of people is more of a "personal" sport anyways...Unless you are a competior numbers really don't mean anything except personally.
The way it reads I qualify as a TWO star freediver - Albeit "self trained"....And I will tell you there is NO WAY I could compete with a guy who has been professionally trained and practices his discipline consistantly on a Two star level.
I'm pretty much just a "spearfisherman" but I could PROBABLY do all of the 3 star requirements ON A GOOD DAY - But maybe not every day...I do "dabble" with pure freediving on occasion (with proper safety's) But that certainly does'nt make me "special" - or even a 3 star freediver. So yeah...It's just a number really.
Unfortunately I'm sure people also pass SOME "freediving" courses (not AIDA approved ones hopefully) who maybe should not have...Kinda like most U.S. martial arts classes nowadays...You can be a Black Belt in two years!!!!...Ha, Yeah right....What a joke! It was'nt like that when I took Tae-Kwon-Do in the 80's from the late Master "He Il Cho" (fastest jump spinning back kick in the world) It took a "minimum" of 8 years to earn a "black belt" from him...And even back then he admitted that at for most, even with 8 years of classes, he was still "selling" 95% of the black belts he awarded!
Now'a'days money talks even louder. If some people or their kids don't "earn" their belt "soon enough" they drop out...Or they don't go for "the next level"...Thus no business for Mr. Karate class eventually. You know how many 8 year old black belts there are in the U.S.? I bet more than in CHINA and KOREA combined!!! Seriously!
Tell that to some Korean dude who earned his black belt in Tae-Kwon-Do in Korea...Or a Chinese Kung Fu Master who learned Kung-Fu at a Shaolin Temple or something...He'd get a GOOD chuckle outta that too, I'm sure! roflMoney Talks. Almost everywhere...But especially in the "good 'ol U.S.A." - Buy a "belt", Buy a "completion" certificate, etc.
To me it says you MUST be able to complete or beat in "constant weight" all the fore-metioned categories in depth, static and dynamic on any level to make it to the next level or "star" category of "CWT freediving"...
Makes PERFECT sense to me.
:waveIsland Sands also made a good point though: She wrote - Quote: "I have also seen 3 star freedivers who cant dive past 20 metres... they must have done the depth once to qualify for the rating but possibly don't practice enough to keep the same level." :head
:waveSanso ALSO has made a good point! "It's not about the numbers".
Freediving for alot of people is more of a "personal" sport anyways...Unless you are a competior numbers really don't mean anything except personally.
The way it reads I qualify as a TWO star freediver - Albeit "self trained"....And I will tell you there is NO WAY I could compete with a guy who has been professionally trained and practices his discipline consistantly on a Two star level.
I'm pretty much just a "spearfisherman" but I could PROBABLY do all of the 3 star requirements ON A GOOD DAY - But maybe not every day...I do "dabble" with pure freediving on occasion (with proper safety's) But that certainly does'nt make me "special" - or even a 3 star freediver. So yeah...It's just a number really.
Unfortunately I'm sure people also pass SOME "freediving" courses (not AIDA approved ones hopefully) who maybe should not have...Kinda like most U.S. martial arts classes nowadays...You can be a Black Belt in two years!!!!...Ha, Yeah right....What a joke! It was'nt like that when I took Tae-Kwon-Do in the 80's from the late Master "He Il Cho" (fastest jump spinning back kick in the world) It took a "minimum" of 8 years to earn a "black belt" from him...And even back then he admitted that at for most, even with 8 years of classes, he was still "selling" 95% of the black belts he awarded!
Now'a'days money talks even louder. If some people or their kids don't "earn" their belt "soon enough" they drop out...Or they don't go for "the next level"...Thus no business for Mr. Karate class eventually. You know how many 8 year old black belts there are in the U.S.? I bet more than in CHINA and KOREA combined!!! Seriously!
Tell that to some Korean dude who earned his black belt in Tae-Kwon-Do in Korea...Or a Chinese Kung Fu Master who learned Kung-Fu at a Shaolin Temple or something...He'd get a GOOD chuckle outta that too, I'm sure! roflMoney Talks. Almost everywhere...But especially in the "good 'ol U.S.A." - Buy a "belt", Buy a "completion" certificate, etc.
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thanks for answering
in some way i guess a 2* freediver i am
i-m just sad because in my country we don-t have any kind of free-diving courses
so, like untill now i must rely on this forum [theory part] and myself [practice part] with the lucky one time per year vacation in red sea for testing my depth ability
thanks again mate!
in some way i guess a 2* freediver i am
i-m just sad because in my country we don-t have any kind of free-diving courses
so, like untill now i must rely on this forum [theory part] and myself [practice part] with the lucky one time per year vacation in red sea for testing my depth ability
thanks again mate!
I have never tryed cwt yet so i dont really know what i will make but im sure it will be alot less than 32m probadly less than 15 m on my first attempts. However i have tryed walking apnea and my best time there is 2´15min at a slow to moderate pace.
So what do you guys reckon i could do in cwt or cnf i have no fins yet so its whitout fins?
So what do you guys reckon i could do in cwt or cnf i have no fins yet so its whitout fins?
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Hi guys
i've been spearing for a long time and just recently taken up freediving and by the AIDA distinctions i would almost be a 4 star diver, and after completing the level 1 course through FDI i still feel that i have an infinate amount to learn (i'v barely scratched the surface), i do a 4'36" static, comfortable 25+m constant weight (have done 32m once) and comfortably do over 75m during training in Dynamic with fins and there is no way i would consider myself an advanced freediver, so i think the real test is your understanding of what is happening to you during dives and the true grasp of the technique and what the dive really means to YOU (as everyone has their own reason to dive)
the reason why Statics dont relate directly to constant weight is that during a static you do not go through the pressure changes that you go through during constant weight, this pressure change brings challanges such as equalising and also the feeling of the pressure building on your body, they are two completely different disciplins, holding your breath is only a small part of the challange during a constant weight dive.
DD
i've been spearing for a long time and just recently taken up freediving and by the AIDA distinctions i would almost be a 4 star diver, and after completing the level 1 course through FDI i still feel that i have an infinate amount to learn (i'v barely scratched the surface), i do a 4'36" static, comfortable 25+m constant weight (have done 32m once) and comfortably do over 75m during training in Dynamic with fins and there is no way i would consider myself an advanced freediver, so i think the real test is your understanding of what is happening to you during dives and the true grasp of the technique and what the dive really means to YOU (as everyone has their own reason to dive)
the reason why Statics dont relate directly to constant weight is that during a static you do not go through the pressure changes that you go through during constant weight, this pressure change brings challanges such as equalising and also the feeling of the pressure building on your body, they are two completely different disciplins, holding your breath is only a small part of the challange during a constant weight dive.
DD
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