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Reel vs Float for freediving

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Sweet Tooth

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I've been spearing with scuba for years but have just gotten into freediving. Our spearing off the FL panhandle is mostly 60' or more and I'm not too sure I want to use my current line gun set up.
It seems my two best alternatives are a float system or a reel and I'd like any thoughts or opinions on which would be better. Most of our spearing will be snapper, grouper etc. from 5 to 10 lbs on natural bottom or artificial reefs.

Thanks
 
a reel, in 60ft dragging a float around would be a pain.
 
I think it is personel choice, I hate reels, always get snaged. I string my fish on my float, and use a small enough float that I can pull under if dropping a bit deeper.
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When fighting a big fish you can't reel it in. Then with the fish in your hands you've got a lot of thin line floating around.
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Floats, reels... different tools for slightly different jobs?

I dive alone from shore, so i want a large float as a very visible marker for any boats and to carry all my stuff (keys, spare gun etc). Gun (no reel) is connected to the floatline so i won't hesitate to let it go when i find myself in a bad spot because the fish put up a hard fight.

If i should be lucky enough to dive from a boat with a buddy, then the boat would be the marker. I might dive deeper (if my buddy is the kind that knows how to watch over me) so that a floatline could be a hinderance, then a reel would maybe be better to give me the slack i need to easily get up when the fish start to fight. A good buddy would then help me securing fish, line etc, give a nice slap on the back while congratulate on the nice catch and then proceed to dive down and shoot something much larger...

But then again that is me and what works for me where i hunt.
If i ever should be so lucky to hunt in FL, Med (or really any other place) with nice people there then i would have to put up my best schoolboy grin and prepare to learn stuff all over again
 
I'll be spearing off of my boat, usually at least a few miles from shore so I'm not too worried about marking my location because hopefully they'll see the boat.
I think right now I'm leaning towards a float with a breakaway rig. That way I'm never faced with being afraid to let go of my gun after shooting a fish as it will float w/o a shaft on it.
Our vis is normally around 30-40' so the float will also help my buddy keep track of me. My big question though is how much of a pain is it to avoid the floatline on ascent and descent?

Thanks
 
Just make sure you get a line from the float to the gun that is quite thick and floats, sinc eit is thick you can see it at all times and helps avoid it if you have to.
Since it floats, it should not come down onto you or anywhere near to wrap up on you, so easy to avoid... it is what i use!
Also having a thick line (rope) helps managing it when you want to tie it up or bring it in closer to you when moving into shallower water or unrolling when moving into deeper water.
Reels are mostly for boat or shore divers that dont need to mark there positions to buddys or boat traffic or in gnarly rad cases divers that are shooting in over head reefs and artificial reef settings.

Dom
 
My big question though is how much of a pain is it to avoid the floatline on ascent and descent?

I seldom notice mine when diving. Sometimes i get a slight tangle around one leg if i have been towing the float around for a while, but since this is a dedicated floatline (stiff and thick) i just need one lazy turn with that leg and i am out of it. Can't remember it ever bothering me on ascent/descent.

Hm, "nice, stiff and thick", seems to describe a quality sought after in both porn and floatlines. "A pain in the a**" would then be either using bad floatline or getting the wrong movie.
 
a reel is good for some things , but a float line is multi purpose. i used to use a reel, but the line seemed to tangle up when you let any out. so my advice is: unless you need a reel for deep cave type diving, or if you regularly dive deeper than 60ft' and/ or thefish you shoot are under 10lbs maybe it makes sense. for me, in florida, i use afloat at all times, mostly for safety reasons. plus i can attach my stringer to it. with a reel, youeither attach the fish to your belt,(not such a great idea around here/ with the sharks) or you boat each fish as you take them(time consuming!) we shoot alot of fish here , so that can be a pita!
plus you wont lose your gun, if the float is attached. it a personal preference. some of the best freedivers i know, use reels. im not that good, so a floatline works well.we come across wahoo, mahi, and large kingfish on the reef this time of year.the 30#kingfish that i shot 2 weeks ago might have pulled a reel out of my hands. i let the gun go with no worries.
 
Different dive conditions different tools. If you are dive bombing patches a reel is ideal, deep drops over 75' a reel works great too, if you have a capt on board, and a few other divers a reel is the way to go (gets messy with 2-3 floatlines in the water and boat) as the capt can watch for other careless boaters...A floatline is also great, it keeps the guns balance, easier (IMO) to fight fish, warns (most of the time) boaters, gives you something to do when breathing up (coil the floatline) and its pretty much tangle free, and quicker to set up for the next fish.

When I dive, I usually use a FL, I prefer 30' and connect them rather than al ong 75-100', but then I usually have one other spearo on board and we are both usually hunting and wonder a bit too far from the boat- so under these conditions a floatline works well for me, as of late I've been going back to a reel and getting in and out is a quick delight.
 
i regularly use a floatline, but reels have their place also for boat diving i preffer the ease of a reel, however most of my diving has been from the shore so ive been making do with a floatline and it isnt that bad
 
I may use reel for fish which is up to 3 kgs more than this floot line... Pulling the reel back is time consuming for me and last trip it was very annoying for me... I prefer float line...

This is my personal point
 
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My thinking is pretty much along the line lines of jps's original post. I too use a float and fish from shore, rather than boat. For big fish, I like the idea of break-away float rigs (perhaps because of all the neat RA gizmos available!) - but have not yet had need for them myself. For some reason, reels (like pneumatic spearguns) have little appeal to me. Perhaps I just need to try one.
...Hm, "nice, stiff and thick", seems to describe a quality sought after in both porn and floatlines. "...
Yes, stiffness is an important property. I've tried a number of inexpensive float lines (we don't have huge fish here that need or justify expensive tuna-capable float line - but you probably do) which are not especially thick.

BTW The best I've found so far is the inexpensive, wiry, drab, "Thai-green" polypropylene float lines from Rob Allen, of South Africa. However I have found something almost as good & even cheaper, which is a particular type of English-made (wow! Don't often see that these days) washing line - which cost only £1 for 20m (or was it 30m?). It is pretty much the same as the Rob Allen line except thinner, and a paler, brighter green, and you have to splice your own end-loops.

The cheap, very stiff, bright yellow braided polypropylene line commonly found in the UK & shipped with some floats works quite well...but it's bright yellow! Paracord, also shipped with some floats is rubbish - don't use it.

Aquarium air-line pipe seems pretty popular too. Strong enough for the UK but would need reinforcing (through centre) for bigger fish. [Search the forum for more info. ]
 
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I was shooting yesterday with Sickbugs under a cement plant, i had no reel, no float, just the cord from my gun to my spear.
It was a great day for big fish, mackerels about, very nice barracudas here and there, rainbow trevallys flying around as they do through and over the bait balls.
This spot is only 45ft, i shot a nice size trevally, not the best shot, but an inch or two behind the gill plate, he still had fight from this shot, if i had a reel i would of made it to the surface quicker/easier with out worrying about popping my string.
Couldint carry a float because it is not allowed under such structures, because of entanglement is very easy.
I then shot at a sweet barracuda which with great power turned itself behind and around one of the pillars and ripped itself off, now if i had a reel i would of been realy fucked... as it would of wrapped around the whole darn pillar.
Now if i had done what sickbugs did, i would of had that sweet fish, what he had was a float line..with out the float.
About 40 ft of line with a loop and a knot at the end, so wen he shoots a fish, he lets go of the gun and lets the line slip through his hand until it reaches the knot, then the handle loop he made.
With that he got his 15 pound Barry.
So i would suggest if you are diving from a boat, or dont have to worry about having your spot market with a buoy, to just use a line with a knot and handle at the end..also good coz it doesnt have to be that long as you can sink it so easily with out feeling any drag.

Dom.
 
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Sounds like an interesting variation on the float-line + tiny carrot-float used by Bill McIntyre and his buddies in the deep, giant kelp "forests" they dive. Perhaps something that might be used around oil rigs too?
 
Not an American perspective, but a friend of mine had a bit to say about the topic.

Personally the biggest fish I've shot on a reel is a 20kg kingfish. There's a bunch of bigger fish that others have taken though. I love diving with a reel, but there are times that it's not appropriate.
 
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