• Welcome to the DeeperBlue.com Forums, the largest online community dedicated to Freediving, Scuba Diving and Spearfishing. To gain full access to the DeeperBlue.com Forums you must register for a free account. As a registered member you will be able to:

    • Join over 44,280+ fellow diving enthusiasts from around the world on this forum
    • Participate in and browse from over 516,210+ posts.
    • Communicate privately with other divers from around the world.
    • Post your own photos or view from 7,441+ user submitted images.
    • All this and much more...

    You can gain access to all this absolutely free when you register for an account, so sign up today!

Rob Allen 1.2 for reef hunting?

Thread Status: Hello , There was no answer in this thread for more than 60 days.
It can take a long time to get an up-to-date response or contact with relevant users.

takeshi

New Member
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
156
Reaction score
13
Points
0
Age
48
Hi, I'm thinking of getting a rob allen 1.1 or 1.2. In their catalog they are listed as beeing good combination guns suitable for reef and open water. I'll be mainly doing reef but I want a little more range and punch than with a 0.9 m gun. Has anyone got experience in using guns this length for reef/bottom/shore hunting?
 

dialadiver

New Member
Joined
Dec 27, 2004
Messages
13
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Age
49
Hi Takeshi.

I have a 1.2 Rob Allen and love it to bits. I use it for reef and limited blue water fishing. I am only an average diver still very much learning. Having said that, I have speared a few nice fish with it and its a joy to dive with.
If you are using for a bit of everything with mainly inshore reef in mind, then that is a nice choice.

Check out www.spearfishing.com.au for heaps of info on rob allens on the forum there.

good luck

Adrian
 

Huan

New Member
Joined
Jul 4, 2004
Messages
957
Reaction score
162
Points
0
Takeshi
It is really dependant on where you are hunting, ie what the prevailing visibility is etc etc
I have a couple of RA gunsand although they are good for conditions where the vis is excellent , the local conditions here can sometimes make a 1.2 gun awkward for use around rocky reefy areas.
Are you hunting in Sweden, or further south?
RA's are a bit of overkill for Northern European species but are ideal for African conditions.
 

Amphibious

Working Class Spearo
Joined
Mar 17, 2002
Messages
2,775
Reaction score
300
Points
0
Age
40
my 100cm is my all around multi purpose reef gun - less akward then a long gun and still gives you great range with a 20mm band.
 

takeshi

New Member
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
156
Reaction score
13
Points
0
Age
48
Hello and thanks for all the advice. I hunt mostly in Sweden and Norway, and in the summers in Greece. So far I've used a 0.9 sporasub and it feels like 20 or 30 more centimeters won't make it much more awkward.
 

Huan

New Member
Joined
Jul 4, 2004
Messages
957
Reaction score
162
Points
0
OK maybe you should try the RA 1.2 I would also get a spare plug for the barrel in case you wanted to cut it down in size;-)
Amphibious is right a 100cm is probably all that you will need for what you are doing, Dentex, Pollock,Cod,Conger remember that RA's can be powered up a little higher than the equivalent size euro because the rail makes them stiffer.
Shafts are available in a lot of diameters too from 6.6mm to 8.5mm I think.
a 7.5mm would be plenty heavy enough to give you a little more power.
20-30cm makes a BIG difference when you are trying to swing a gun.
 

Murat

Promethian
Joined
Jun 21, 2002
Messages
2,982
Reaction score
159
Points
0
Age
38
110 is good... for here of course rofl
 

GALADION

New Member
Joined
Mar 31, 2004
Messages
135
Reaction score
13
Points
0
A 100-110cm RA with a 6.6-7.0mm shaft and 1x20mm or 2x16mm slings(for that wicked dentex!) would be more than suitable for your Greek summers.:)
 

takeshi

New Member
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
156
Reaction score
13
Points
0
Age
48
Hi guys, thanks for all your input. Based on what you've said I think I'm leaning towards a 1.0 or 1.1 m gun. Would a 1.1 m gun be enough for larger species in mexico or the caribbean?
 

sturgeon

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 1, 2002
Messages
392
Reaction score
94
Points
118
Takeshi,

I'm very familiar with Rob Allen's. I've been using them since I started freediving (6 years ago) and own 7 of them (70cm - 130cm). I live in southeast Florida (very much like Caribbean & probably Mexico too). My main gun is a 120cm reel gun. I do shoot my 110cm (also reel gun) every once in a while when the water gets dirty (15-20 foot vis) and I use my 130cm (float line gun) in deeper water (70-90 ft), around wrecks with big fish, and in the bluewater. For me, if I could only have one RA I would probably choose the 120. I think for you maybe a 110 would be best or possibly a 120. Since you already own a 90cm gun, I don't think I'd bother with a 100.

BTW, I shoot single 20mm bands on all my guns, I use 7mm double notched shafts (helps with loading) on my 110cm sized guns and up and 6.5mm single notched shafts on my smaller guns (70 and 90).

Hope this helps.

Scott
 

sturgeon

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 1, 2002
Messages
392
Reaction score
94
Points
118
Tak,

Just re-read the posts and realized you don't already own a 90 so maybe a 100 would be ok for you. I know for here it would be too small though. The smallest anybody uses here in southeast FL is a 110.

Take care.

Scott
 

Skindiver

100 % H2O
Joined
Feb 5, 2002
Messages
267
Reaction score
40
Points
118
I spearfished in the SA national competition last year. The fish being targeted were mostly bottoms in chilly Cape waters. I used a 115 RA and found it was up to the task. At no point did i feel it was too long. I did not however shoot fish in caves, generally not being good at it, only in and about and above the reef and rock.

There were times when lying on the bottom watching out of the pores in the back of my hoodie, a big stumpnose or brusher or musselcracker that just would not come in before i ran out of air, that i felt i could have maxed him with even a 1.4 RA "fisherator".

I think that a 1.2 is ok all round on the reef, if a bit long for caves and a bit short for sly fish.

so .. consult the law of averages..

Skin.
 
Last edited:

uluapoundr

New Member
Joined
Mar 21, 2003
Messages
92
Reaction score
5
Points
0
There is an RA loading pad, but from what I've heard from other with it, it tends to block the line of sight, which may affect aiming and accuracy. It might be better to get a loading pad for your wetsuit, or a mouse pad if you are only wearing a rash guard.
 

Spearingfish

New Member
Joined
Jan 19, 2005
Messages
36
Reaction score
2
Points
0
Age
46
RA guns are nice. not the best, however. For reef I would get a 100-110.
 

calispearo

New Member
Joined
Oct 27, 2004
Messages
109
Reaction score
5
Points
0
Do you prefer Rabbi over Rob allen?

and as a do-all would you go as far as a 120? or would that hinder me in the reef?

I think Defofthecrown took his WR Drum with a 120 Carbon Stealth.
 

Spearingfish

New Member
Joined
Jan 19, 2005
Messages
36
Reaction score
2
Points
0
Age
46
i prefer the rabbi. height weight and strength of the diver play parts when deciding length. but preference above all. 100 is a nice size and bigger on clearer days which does happen tho it does not seem like it for the past 30 days. the 80 and 90 are too small on thte other post for everyday shooting and the island too big and a low shooter. everyday i use 110 size

islander-ebaying it in a weeks time so if you like that then you can get it also freedivelist
 

takeshi

New Member
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
156
Reaction score
13
Points
0
Age
48
Hello everyone, thanks for all the input. I ended up getting a ra 1.2 saracen. I have used it in cuba for three weeks and just got back. I did reef hunting and never felt hindered by the lenght, great gun.
 
DeeperBlue.com - The Worlds Largest Community Dedicated To Freediving, Scuba Diving and Spearfishing

ABOUT US

ISSN 1469-865X | Copyright © 1996 - 2021 deeperblue.net limited.

DeeperBlue.com is the World's Largest Community dedicated to Freediving, Scuba Diving, Spearfishing and Diving Travel.

We've been dedicated to bringing you the freshest news, features and discussions from around the underwater world since 1996.

ADVERT