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Rubber/Band Length ????

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crusty

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I know it has been asked before, but can someone please explain to me the formula for working out band lenght.
I have a new 1.4 ally with a Single 20mm band and it looks way to long.
I useually just shorten the band to suit my pull strength ( i have long arms)
but i would like to have referance or start lenght for the band.

Thanks Monkey man Crusty.
 
Here is the formula that I use when making my own bands from 9/16" and 5/8" rubber. Its a nice start point, although I tend to make them a little shorter. I would think it would apply to the thicker Euro gun bands too, except that one might have difficulty cocking a single 20 mm band cut to this size, even if the stretch ratio would be correct.


1. Take a measure tape and measure the distance from the middle of the
band slot to the center cocking tab.

2. Double the distance ( for both sides of the gun )

3. Subtract the length of the wish bone. (Alexander and Riffe's are
approx 6")

4. Divide the number by 3 1/2.

5. This is the length of your powerband if you are using a standard 3 1/2
: 1 stretch ratio. This is a measurement of the powerband from knot to
knot. For actual rubber length, add 1" to this length or 1 1/2" in you
are tapering the ends of the powerbands.
 
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There's an easy way to figure this out for all types of speargun bands.
For a Euro style gun it's even easier since most of them use screw in bands although it's fairly easy to apply to loop bands and the tie your own variety as well.

Ex. 90cm Gun (90cm of band stretch) = Stock reccomended band size is 22cm for a 90cm gun. Why 22cm? 22 x 4 = 88 (pretty close to 90). + - 1-2cm within that won't make much difference depending on your preference.

Still, why 22 though? Any good band manufacter tries to find a happy medium between pulling strength required to load it and the power it gives in return. The widely accepted concensus is that three more times the length of the band is a proper stretch that doesn't cause good latex rubber to loose its elasticity too quickly (stretch out) while still taking advantage of the power it can put to the shaft as much as possible.
That's why 90cm guns come stock with 22's, 100 guns with 24's (24x4=96), 110 use 26-28's (28x4 112), 120 (30x4=120)....you get the idea.

With a conventional loop/tie your own system that goes through a round slot in the muzzle you should follow the same rule of thumb roughly. Take your 120cm gun and a 64cm piece of rubber, give or take a couple cm's for the section that runs through the muzzle and you still have two 30cm lengths that stretch out to 120cm at 4x their original length.
---------------------4 Lengths of Rubber on a barrel---------------------- is a good rule of thumb

If you can only pull your bands three times their length or maybe only two because it's so hard it's really crappy rubber with poor modulus. Dispose of it immediately or ask for a refund! If it's too easy to pull four lengths of it, it's also crap. Sorry if I offended anybodies rubber

Mark
 
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Mark Laboccetta said:
Sorry if I offended anybodies rubber

Mark

Today's rubbers are so touchy, ypu should not say this in open form. Luckly my bands are not touchy enough to get upset and refuse to shoot the fish rofl

Anyway, this 4 to 1 idea is spot on. i have 21cm on my 80cm (pull length not the tube length, from muzzle screw to second notch) gun and although its powerfull i still found it little slow for some situations. 110cm gun have 31cm bnads are actually velocity suffers on first notch. I was already decided to buy 19cm for 80 and 28cm for 110. Your words just made me feel more comfortable about it.
 
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