Russia and doping

Why do you think there is any correlation whatsoever between the olympics and freediving?

If you are inferring anything about Alexy... I would definitely question why you would bring up such a thing?

I've competed with him (albeit at very different depths!) and he is a class act competitor and super talented... Pretty sure he works pretty hard at it as well!


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This one Russian Sochi mess is unrelated to freediving.

Cheating in sport has been prevalent since day 1. I have no idea how the Sochi Olympics and some misguided notion of national supremacy suddenly impacts freediving.

Freediving has no $ in the sport and you'd only be risking your life by cheating at the depth disciplines.

Pure O2 for pool disciplines is the "best" way to cheat... But the competitors have to be on-deck and visible for a full hour before OT. Super easy to police.

Besides pure O2, blood doping and EPO are likely the most effective, but you risk death with increased blood viscosity and extra RBCs, considering how high BP skyrockets already while diving.

In the Sochi Olympic case, it was state sponsored and a conspiracy.

In freediving, all WRs are drug tested and the process is controlled by AIDA (or CMAS as the case may be).

So either an athlete is beating the tests / using something undetectable, or AIDA is conspiring and letting athletes cheat just to keep the records coming so that the HUGE funding, sponsorship and lucrative TV deals keep rolling in. [emoji849]

With Lance Armstrong there was 10's of millions of $ at stake and doping was (and still is) an epidemic in cycling. Everyone was doing it, all athletes knew it and it was systemically supported.

In freediving, there's 12 divers in the world even remotely capable of setting a world record across all disciplines and maybe 3-5/ discipline.

Freedivers for the most part travel internationally for their competitions alone and would have to take their drugs across multiple international borders many times / year. There is no support system for freediving because there is no $ in the sport.

Yes - one idiot who is hyper-competitive and has a massive ego problem COULD cheat. That's why we have protocols in place and test the athletes. I do not know of a high-profile incident where anyone has been caught doing anything dumb... Other than a small-time local event where someone huffed some O2 before OT in the pool.

I repeat: the Sochi state-sponsored OLYMPIC doping scandal is unrelated to freediving.


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Apneaddict said:

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With Lance Armstrong there was 10's of millions of $ at stake and doping was (and still is) an epidemic in cycling...

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Do you have any evidence to support your claim that doping still is an epidemic in cycling because it is bold claim?

You're suggesting the whole of the peleton, the best riders in the world, is on drugs because they are doing "impossible" feats, although the times achieved now are slower than the known drug era.

Everyone knows there was a massive drug problem in cycling but that was why massive efforts were made. Former pros like David Millar, who did dope, thinks things have been massively improved and I see no reason for doubting him. If you have information, not conjecture, 'everybody knows', then I'd love to read it.

Broseidon said:

How about first hand knowledge? Does that count?

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You bet!

But of what, exactly?